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highsec miner gankers, what bounty price would encourage you?
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Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#21 - 2014-10-22 14:20:34 UTC
If they own a Permit and are CODE-compliant, OP is out of luck of course; such is the law of high-sec.....

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Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2014-10-22 14:42:09 UTC
Clara Pond wrote:
That said, no bounty is too small to discourage us from enforcing The Code, and none so large as to distract us from our mission.

the code = organized crime like protection racketeering.

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#23 - 2014-10-22 14:54:08 UTC
Barbara Nichole wrote:
the code = socially responsible protection racketeering.

Fixed for you.
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#24 - 2014-10-22 16:06:21 UTC
Really Hot Guy wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Formerly Known As AC wrote:
Wouldn't it be cheaper just to get a permit?


Can you read?


It's an automated response generated by the detection of keywords.


They dont read, the diarrhea just spews from their mouth and dont even know what they are doing doing other them making ships explode

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Klara Hopski
Doomheim
#25 - 2014-10-22 19:20:15 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Christopher Mabata wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
They recently did a Megathron smartbomb ambush on a guy with two dozen Procurers, I can imagine that is a feat worth repeating if it's possible.

Wait a second...they pipe bombed...a Procurer fleet?

Oh good lord, this I must find on the killboards....

EDIT: Here it is. Well played CODE., well played indeed....


Oh my god that is beautiful
Does anyone have a video?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__b8fCbviVU&feature=youtu.be

[edit: Yes, they had to make two runs, but the horrifying part is that the guy did not move for 45 minutes while they reshipped.

Amazing. And people say that guy isn't botting. BS, his script is just undetectable I'd guess.

Watching loyalanon communicate in local was hard to look at though. I think my 10 year old nephew speaks with more maturity. CODE shooting themsleves in the leg having that guy as their militant leader
Aria Stane
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2014-10-22 21:16:47 UTC
Heratais,

Although it is the official policy of CODE. to not function as a mercenary organization at the alliance level, there's nothing that prevents individuals such as yourself from making arrangements with individual CODE./New Order pilots or groups thereof. As mentioned in a previous post, the bounty system probably isn't the best way to incentivize ganking operations against specific targets. Your best bet is to, as also mentioned previously, join the minerbumping channel (password isn't hard to guess or find) and speak with some New Order Knights and make arrangements directly with them.

Of course, if a target has a valid New Order issued permit, they won't be targeted unless they're in violation of the New Halaima Code of Conduct, so your mileage may vary depending on whether those you want ganked are good little miners or bad little miners.

I know in the past we've had third parties make these kinds of arrangements with our Knights with good results.
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#27 - 2014-10-23 19:52:22 UTC
Herateis wrote:
Same as topic. I want to clear out some people using alt miners for principled reasons. What bounty is good enough to compensate you for your time? I'm not expecting directed attacks, just want to give incentives for people you might run across in 0.7-0.5 sec.


Any bounty over a few million is a nice incentive. Miner ganking becomes very profitable when I get a cool 2 million for a retriever or an extra 10m for a mackinaw gank.
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#28 - 2014-10-23 19:53:49 UTC
Clara Pond wrote:
Bounties are not really an effective way to incentivise a gank due to the way bounties work as a percentage of the target ship's value. As has been said above, there may be people in minerbumping willing to help on a fee for service basis. I would structure it as a business deal though with ships and bonuses provided; the New Order is nobody's private army. Apart from James 315 obviously.

That said, no bounty is too small to discourage us from enforcing The Code, and none so large as to distract us from our mission.


I think of them as a nice reward. Keep in mind my catalyst is much cheaper than the enemies exhumer or retriever, so the bounty increases my profit margins considerably.
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#29 - 2014-10-23 19:56:25 UTC
Klara Hopski wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Christopher Mabata wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
They recently did a Megathron smartbomb ambush on a guy with two dozen Procurers, I can imagine that is a feat worth repeating if it's possible.

Wait a second...they pipe bombed...a Procurer fleet?

Oh good lord, this I must find on the killboards....

EDIT: Here it is. Well played CODE., well played indeed....


Oh my god that is beautiful
Does anyone have a video?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__b8fCbviVU&feature=youtu.be

[edit: Yes, they had to make two runs, but the horrifying part is that the guy did not move for 45 minutes while they reshipped.

Amazing. And people say that guy isn't botting. BS, his script is just undetectable I'd guess.

Watching loyalanon communicate in local was hard to look at though. I think my 10 year old nephew speaks with more maturity. CODE shooting themsleves in the leg having that guy as their militant leader


I am guessing you don't do much large group PvP. The main requirement is that you are online constantly and willing to FC. There aren't a lot of players who will do that.
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#30 - 2014-10-23 20:20:04 UTC
Klara Hopski wrote:
Amazing. And people say that guy isn't botting. BS, his script is just undetectable I'd guess.

Any script that is entirely client-side would be undetectable by EvE unless it had some sort of process running in the background monitoring everything going on on your computer. People cry about banning ISBox and the like, but really there's no way for CCP to know who's using it and who isn't. They can infer from simultaneous actions in the logs, and in this case they'd almost certainly be right, but knowing is hard without risking huge privacy violations.

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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#31 - 2014-10-29 09:36:33 UTC  |  Edited by: McChicken Combo HalfMayo
Bounties on miners - kind of useless. If the ships are expensive enough to give a nice bounty payment, they are expensive enough to gank for fun anyways. No ganker is saying to himself, "I would have left that ball of Mackinaws alone, but..."

The only gank worth going after for bounty is against a blingy mission runner. Slap a 500mil bounty on a marauder pilot with X-type mods and let the local bad guys know. Doubles the incentive - loot drops + guaranteed 500mil = yummy. Still plays into the first point though, he'd probably be targeted anyways.

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Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2014-10-29 11:46:28 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Herateis wrote:
Same as topic. I want to clear out some people using alt miners for principled reasons. What bounty is good enough to compensate you for your time? I'm not expecting directed attacks, just want to give incentives for people you might run across in 0.7-0.5 sec.

Honestly, we hit our capacity in random attacks, and the in game bounty system is worthless. At minimum for directed attacks I would put kill mail loss as payout, or 100m per pilot per kill.

Another option might be paying 500m or so for a group of gankers to move to a specific area for a week, and set blue standings with your guys. This has to pay more as the logistics for it are much higher than for one or two targeted ganks.

I think the above options are fairly reasonable. Contact me in game if you're interested, and I'll discuss it with our alliance.


What he said.

An amount of money that goes into buying equipment for a small fleet for a period of a time will go a long way in helping us move to an area.

500M buys about 50 T2 catalysts, which is about a day's worth of ships.

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