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One thing that was never answered though (in classic CCP fashion):

If these buttons were "too hard to see" and yet were the same size as the rest of the buttons/tabs in the entire UI, should we be expecting all the remaining buttons to also be supersized? If so where exactly do you propose we free up the necessary screen pixels from or will you be providing us 4k monitors so we can see the game we are playing instead of playing internet spreadsheets?

You need to stop assuming that we are a hive mind and that one developer is able to answer every question. Neither Habakuk nor I are UI designers, so we have no offhand knowledge about the future of the UI. Also, this forum is for discussing features currently on the test server, so if you're talking about something that isn't on the test server (like hypothetical future features), it's unlikely to get a response.

This and most of the other UI and NPE changes that have happened over the last couple months where because of some player testing done by CCP. This was covered by one of the sessions that was streamed at EVE Vegas.

Correct. We established a need to increase the visibility of the Agents, Guests and Offices tabs in the station panel after playtesting. We therefore redesigned that element of the station panel UI to increase the visibility of those tabs by changing to larger selection buttons for the Agents, Guests and Offices sections of the panel. This brings the selection interface for those sections more in line with the large format services buttons that have long been in the panel.

There is no general change to EVE's UI implied by this decision. It was a specific decision with regard to a specific UI context based on playtesting data.

This... this is all that was ever asked for in this thread... though to note, this thread started before EVE Vegas, so to say that it was answered in the EVE Vegas stream is kinda a cop-out.

The reason I continued to ask, because as stated earlier, most issues and changes or feedback never actually get dev responses and then further down the line when something went wrong they say they never got the feedback. Well, they did, they just never bothered to actually acknowledge it. Yes that may sound unnecessarily harsh or mean to feeble people, but the lack of interaction by the very dev's that start feedback threads (even in those threads themselves) has got me to this point.

That and how the first answer was "They were hard to find"... even though they were like that for years and years. Suddenly just now being deemed "hard to find" seemed like a very weak response.

Lastly, something he said just now that took me back a bit... and I want to ask, you sure you are feeling ok? You said CCP did some playtesting to determine the change was needed. It has been my experience over the years on Sisi and the forums that CCP tries their hardest not to playtest changes, and then doesn't understand why people are having issues with them (like the industry change that required corp members to have wallet access in order to start jobs, how does that make it to production?). Too many times have CCP just seemingly outright ignored feedback all-together even though they specifically asked for feedback. Or in some cases asking for feedback at the last minute, and then after being told something was very much broken, saying "well its too far in the development process to change it now" and releasing it anyways.

I'm not trying to **** people off, just attempting for a small bit of dev accountability for changes made without any solid justification that have the potential for more sweeping changes that were never asked for. I'm not blaming the dev's that responded that didn't know, but on that note, if you don't know then you shouldn't be answering in the first place.

You mean that you aren't a single mind dedicated to cause like rogue drones ?

I'm disappointed.