Warfare & Tactics

no

Definitely should be allowed. Would put a whole different complexion on small plexes and allow people to counter a blob if they want to put their isk on the line.

I'm inclined to be in favor of allowing T3 Destroyers into small and medium FW plexes.

Along the same line, I think T3 Cruisers should be permitted to enter medium FW plexes.

HACs, Recons, and Faction Cruisers are already allowed to enter medium plexes but you don't always see it because even though they're great ships, its not always optimal to risk that much ISK to run a FW plex. I think the same logic would apply to a T3 cruiser so why not allow it?

Sure some people may be concerned about seeing T3s in all their plexes and pushing out the little guy, but to be honest I bet you see them about as often as you see other "shiny" ships.

Free up the mechanics to allow the play and see what players do. If T3s are OP and everywhere in FW come the following expansion, then nerf their entry into plexes but lets at least get a shot at trying to use them in FW!

Aside from the extra resists profile when you have logi present, T2 destroyers just don't get you enough bang for the buck in low-sec.

Yeah, that is the lowsec way certainly... I find myself agreeing with your stance on it. Let them in, see how it pans out. If turns to ****, kick them out.

Do we have any stats yet for the capabilities of the ships?

Seems to me that before we can draw a conclusion about whether they should be allowed into small plexes or not, we need to know how powerful they might be in different configurations.

My understanding, from the little information that I've seen, is that they are not going to be designed to be more powerful than existing destroyers, but more flexible to fit a needed role, with a cooldown period between changing on the fly.

If that's the case and they aren't more powerful than T2 or other destroyers, then limiting their access to mediums and above seems a little harsh.

So for me, probably too early to make a judgement call.

Maybe allow them into Medium plexes....T3 Cruisers can't enter Mediums so apply the same logic to the Destroyers...they enter one size up. Just a thought :S

Lets put it the other way. If they can't enter Small plexes what then? As far as I understand it then they will be optimal for smallgang sniping / nanoing and will be really great against other small ships. All due to the nature of being destroyers. They will lack the EHP to take gateguns and they would probably struggle against medium rails / sentries that seem to dominate among large fleets. So if they can't enter small plexes it may be hard to find decent fights with them. Atleast in lowsec.

If people are worried about being kited by a destroyer in a small plex they just have to camp the landing beacon. Destroyers will have a harder time burning out of scram range than nano frigs like slicers and garmurs.

But I may be biased as I am hoping for a Supercharged Coercer of Doom .

i do not know why ccp has to bring new ships, i have maxed out skills for every t3 cruiser but never flown one.

same goes with many other ships that i have skills, but i have never used those because those does not fit on my 'style to play'

they can transform into a mining frig and enter novice plexes