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An open question to CCP Seagull.

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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#1 - 2014-10-20 14:48:41 UTC
Will keep it very simple.

Do you envision the player-built stargates and the new space behind them as accessible from everywhere in New Eden, as wormholes are? Or will they be restricted to only certain locations based on sovereignty, security level or other?

Even simpler: Will player-built stargates be available only in 0.0 security space? Yes or no?
Solecist Project
#2 - 2014-10-20 14:50:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
There was a thread linking a stargate from Chaos testserver ...

Assuming it's not bogus,
stargates from afar can connect to any other gate.

I doubt they'll give out info already,
considering the fact that there's still a long way to go.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Anslo
Scope Works
#3 - 2014-10-20 14:55:14 UTC
It depends. If one were to speculate, one could say that the coming jump changes could be an indicator of CCP POSSIBLY attempting to make 0.0 more accessible to smaller entities. If so, then stargates being limited to sov 0.0 would be expected should the jump changes and changes to 0.0 sov make small groups holding sov a thing.

But, that's just my personal speculation. I have no idea wtf CCP is doing. Even IF the changes are made in favor of smaller groups in 0.0, the current power blocs will simply adapt and ensure their holdings are secure. I.E. nothing will change.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#4 - 2014-10-20 14:58:50 UTC
Almost definitely yes. Even lowsec space is Empire controlled to an extent.

And if you recall the trailer, the Empires are stridently opposed to player controlled stargates. It would only really be possible in null space, and could very possibly need to be defended against NPC siege fleets.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Solecist Project
#5 - 2014-10-20 15:02:59 UTC
Looking at the concept,
it seems that CCP is trying to reach out to those who want to conquer their own space.

It's a fix to issue of giving people their own space.

That way they can give people an alternative to nullsec ...
... and at the same time extend the cluster infinitely.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Anslo
Scope Works
#6 - 2014-10-20 15:05:17 UTC
WH Gates, GOGOGOGO (yes I know this won't happen, but I can dream).

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#7 - 2014-10-20 17:47:41 UTC
I'm not sure even CCP has fully worked out the mechanics of those new gates yet.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Indahmawar Fazmarai
#8 - 2014-10-20 18:03:31 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I'm not sure even CCP has fully worked out the mechanics of those new gates yet.


Well, the question is very simple. It's about access to the stargates, no further details are needed.
Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#9 - 2014-10-20 18:05:19 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I'm not sure even CCP has fully worked out the mechanics of those new gates yet.


Well, the question is very simple. It's about access to the stargates, no further details are needed.


Heres 100% of the information CCP has decided upon so far;

'We would like to one day add player built stargates'

Thats all there is.

The Coreli Corporation is recruiting.

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#10 - 2014-10-20 18:07:13 UTC
why do you think they would have settled on something this specific in game design this early and why would you expect an answer.
Marsha Mallow
#11 - 2014-10-20 18:22:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Marsha Mallow
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Well, the question is very simple. It's about access to the stargates, no further details are needed.

The reasons for your question are probably even simpler. IB4 "OMG CCP why aren't we allowed to access this new area of space IT'S NOT FAIR, the RMT cartels get everything via their CSM sockpuppets, abloobloobloo rabblerabble". If you're going to attempt this, please do it properly. #freedinsdale.

Personally I hope these player built stargates can be configured to AOE anyone daft enough to try use them if they aren't part of the group that owns it. Or can be confirgured to charge an (extortionate) toll for usage. If you don't like it, stop levelling up your empire raven and engaging in erotic roleplay with the NPC dwellers and build one yourself.

That said, it won't take long for a group to throw one up purely to extort gullible singleplayers, so I doubt new areas of space will be unattainable even for those outside of blocs.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day

Indahmawar Fazmarai
#12 - 2014-10-20 18:24:26 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
why do you think they would have settled on something this specific in game design this early and why would you expect an answer.


Because details are specific enough so CCP Seagull stated at Fanfest 2014 that industry changes were needed so nullsec had the abbility to build those gates. That can be read in many ways, and the more CCP Seagull talks about her vision for EVE, the more some people wonder about access to those stargates.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#13 - 2014-10-20 18:39:15 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:

{straw man}

{ad hominem}

{off topic}

{off topic}



Interesting and totally original points. Please be my guest and keep enlightening us.
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#14 - 2014-10-20 18:48:37 UTC
Better question for CCP seagull: Is she single? lol

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith

Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#15 - 2014-10-20 18:53:10 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Marsha Mallow wrote:

{straw man}

{ad hominem}

{off topic}

{off topic}



Interesting and totally original points. Please be my guest and keep enlightening us.

I too took an argument class in college. Does this mean we're friends now?
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-10-20 19:02:59 UTC
Carmen Electra wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Marsha Mallow wrote:

{straw man}

{ad hominem}

{off topic}

{off topic}



Interesting and totally original points. Please be my guest and keep enlightening us.

I too took an argument class in college. Does this mean we're friends now?


No, it means you were not a popular person.
Serene Repose
#17 - 2014-10-20 19:18:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
Allowing players to build their own stargates is evidence CCP has collectively lost its ever-lovin' mind, and this is why:

a.) Stargates are transition points used to break up a very well-designed map which couldn't possibly
completely fit on your monitor.

b.) Players not only did not design this well-designed map, but are in all likelihood as unfamiliar with it as a whole as they are with their own neighborhoods where they reside (irl).

c.) You can bet your bottom ISK that some dummy will figure out a way to make Stargateland; the system where there are noooooo moons, nooooo suns, nooooo asteroids...JUST stargates...dozens and dozens of stargates.

Never give someone who doesn't really know they suck at design and execution the opportunity to design and execute if you're in the least bit interested in a semblance of orderliness and rationality.

tl;dr Never give kids the skinny crayons 'til they've proved they can use the fat ones.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Aurelius Valentius
Valentius Corporation
Valentius Corporation Alliance
#18 - 2014-10-20 19:50:47 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Allowing players to build their own stargates is evidence CCP has collectively lost its ever-lovin' mind, and this is why:

a.) Stargates are transition points used to break up a very well-designed map which couldn't possibly
completely fit on your monitor.

b.) Players not only did not design this well-designed map, but are in all likelihood as unfamiliar with it as a whole as they are with their own neighborhoods where they reside (irl).

c.) You can bet your bottom ISK that some dummy will figure out a way to make Stargateland; the system where there are noooooo moons, nooooo suns, nooooo asteroids...JUST stargates...dozens and dozens of stargates.

Never give someone who doesn't really know they suck at design and execution the opportunity to design and execute if you're in the least bit interested in a semblance of orderliness and rationality.

tl;dr Never give kids the skinny crayons 'til they've proved they can use the fat ones.


Evil you are so mean, your mother should have given you more love or something... *waves to everyone in thread*... "Everyone... quick!!... here!!... Ok, on three... Group Hug!" Blink
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#19 - 2014-10-20 20:10:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
why do you think they would have settled on something this specific in game design this early and why would you expect an answer.


Because details are specific enough so CCP Seagull stated at Fanfest 2014 that industry changes were needed so nullsec had the abbility to build those gates. That can be read in many ways, and the more CCP Seagull talks about her vision for EVE, the more some people wonder about access to those stargates.

I still don't see why you expect an answer at this point though.
it's not hhappeningfor a while yet, so from a design standpoint the have plenty of time yet to change how this works, why would you want them to rush a decision now rather than take the time.

Your like my 4 old twins when we're baking,

*adds baking soda*

" leme taste it !"

"No it's not ready yet, you're going to hate it."

*in unison, children of the corn style*

"Let us taste it now daddy!"
Shocked
*let's them taste it*

"Told you it wasn't ready"
Cool
*chuckles smuggly as the kids run off spitting*
WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame
#20 - 2014-10-20 20:21:25 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Almost definitely yes. Even lowsec space is Empire controlled to an extent.

And if you recall the trailer, the Empires are stridently opposed to player controlled stargates. It would only really be possible in null space, and could very possibly need to be defended against NPC siege fleets.

Not the empires, but Amarr are definitely against freedom.

Everything's a game if you make it one - Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci

CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase - Frostys Virpio

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