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A question on how to manage my corp

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Steve WingYip
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-10-20 16:19:10 UTC
So my and a few friends want to play and create a corp in EvE. There are about 4 or 5 of us and we really want to have a corp for ourselves.

I also like the idea but I think that this greatly limits our play so I was wondering if it is a viable play style to have a corp with 5 of us or so and join an alliance that does activities that we enjoy allowing us to do content with them and still have our own corp just for us?

Thanks for any advice folks :)
L'ouris
Have Naught Subsidiaries
#2 - 2014-10-20 16:32:26 UTC
Dare I ask how you think being in a player corp would limit your gameplay?

From a mechanics perspective, that lets you do everything in game except claim SOV.

IMO, a 4-5 man corp can find a million ways to have fun unless your trying to take real valuable stuff from groups 100 times your size. Even then, I suppose a 4-5 man espionage team might be better than 1 operative.
Steve WingYip
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-10-20 16:35:41 UTC
L'ouris wrote:
Dare I ask how you think being in a player corp would limit your gameplay?

From a mechanics perspective, that lets you do everything in game except claim SOV.

IMO, a 4-5 man corp can find a million ways to have fun unless your trying to take real valuable stuff from groups 100 times your size. Even then, I suppose a 4-5 man espionage team might be better than 1 operative.


The idea was previously, I have enjoyed doing PvP roams with groups of around 15 and my friends are not on anywhere near as much as I am , and I don't want to spend most of my time waiting for them to come on when I could do content with others as well :)
Toshiro Hasegawa
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2014-10-20 16:42:42 UTC
You can create your own and fumble around - figure things out on your own .. maybe grow .. maybe not .. nothing wrong with that .. its a game .. you pay to play the way you want .. and as long as your having fun .. fill your boots.

my personal advice is that joininng an established corp would be better .. if its got vets and its its not led by idiots or douches. Getting access to all that "corporate" knowledge, all those experienced pilots, the already developed corp assetts, leaders who already have the hangers set up, the deals with null sec alliances, already have POS and logistics set up and configured, the already set up and populated voice comms to say nothing of the fun of getting in with a good group.

Your five friends might not all be on at the same time, being part of something larger is usually a good idea for the individual that logs on. Better to log into a larger group than alone. Better to have people you can ask questions of, people to help out, or to ask help from.

But thats me .. my opinion after many years in game. Ive run with friends i

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L'ouris
Have Naught Subsidiaries
#5 - 2014-10-20 16:45:28 UTC
Standings and diplomacy seem to get you that too while in your own private corp.

I understand if you feel it would be a hassle to set up however. Just remember that the diplomacy thing would be a requirement for any long term goals for a player corp anyways.

Ultimately, sounds like you should just go with the flow of your other buddies. Hell, nothing stopping you from staying in corp a and flying with corp b ( for buddies, get it? :)
Steve WingYip
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-10-20 16:48:11 UTC
Yeah, thanks for all the advice folks :)
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#7 - 2014-10-20 17:07:04 UTC
Myself and my mates did that, yep it's perfectly viable.
I have since fallen in with some big scary meaniefaced mercenary Corp but my first year in game was derping about with my mates

From experience I can tell you there are a couple of pitfalls in doing so.

the first thing we found is that ,generally speaking , the best way to learn is to doss about with someone who already knows the game readily at hand to offer guidance, critique your fits , clip you about the ear when you're being stupid, point ye in the direction of resources and generally help ye learn2eve .
In a Corp full of nubies the only option is to derp about till you figure it out.
Now this is a good way to learn but things like skill plans and certain ship fits will not be immediately obvious to ye, whereas had you known a vet the information would have been readily .Available and might save ye some frustrating explosions.
This is why one of the first things we usually tell newbies to do is go join an established player Corp.
Now because ye aren't doing this I highly recommend joining an alliance that's new player friendly.
I'm not saying ye wouldn't be able to figure it out between ye but a bit of guidance will go a long way in the first couple of weeks/months.

Second thing we found is

Eve is hard and not everyone took to it,
in the end (I say end but the Corp is still around) three of us were still actually logging in and actively playing.
eve has a fairly high attrition rate so be aware of the up to half of your mates may not be able to hack it, especially so without guidance.

Don't think that ye have to start as miners, it's a boring profession that pays **** all and provides more content for other people than it does you, there's other, better ways of making isk.

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Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-10-20 17:37:02 UTC
Steve WingYip wrote:
The idea was previously, I have enjoyed doing PvP roams with groups of around 15 and my friends are not on anywhere near as much as I am , and I don't want to spend most of my time waiting for them to come on when I could do content with others as well :)

It sounds like you already know the main issue with creating your own corp. Two solutions

-Learn to love solo PvP
-Find out-of-corp options to PvP (public roams, alliance, etc.)

However, public roams aren't available 24/7 and it can be difficult to find a decent alliance (because really, what is your 5 man corp going to offer?)

So I think the better solution would be to convince your friends to join an established corp. Of course that's just my opinion. But there's nothing worse for your EVE career than getting lonely / playing by yourself and feeling trapped because you don't want to abandon your (offline) friends.

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Steve WingYip
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-10-20 17:52:32 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Myself and my mates did that, yep it's perfectly viable.
I have since fallen in with some big scary meaniefaced mercenary Corp but my first year in game was derping about with my mates

From experience I can tell you there are a couple of pitfalls in doing so.

the first thing we found is that ,generally speaking , the best way to learn is to doss about with someone who already knows the game readily at hand to offer guidance, critique your fits , clip you about the ear when you're being stupid, point ye in the direction of resources and generally help ye learn2eve .
In a Corp full of nubies the only option is to derp about till you figure it out.
Now this is a good way to learn but things like skill plans and certain ship fits will not be immediately obvious to ye, whereas had you known a vet the information would have been readily .Available and might save ye some frustrating explosions.
This is why one of the first things we usually tell newbies to do is go join an established player Corp.
Now because ye aren't doing this I highly recommend joining an alliance that's new player friendly.
I'm not saying ye wouldn't be able to figure it out between ye but a bit of guidance will go a long way in the first couple of weeks/months.

Second thing we found is

Eve is hard and not everyone took to it,
in the end (I say end but the Corp is still around) three of us were still actually logging in and actively playing.
eve has a fairly high attrition rate so be aware of the up to half of your mates may not be able to hack it, especially so without guidance.

Don't think that ye have to start as miners, it's a boring profession that pays **** all and provides more content for other people than it does you, there's other, better ways of making isk.


Thanks for this post. I would like to make it clear I have played on and off since 06 :) So I do have a decent amount of knowledge :)
Steve WingYip
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-10-20 17:53:20 UTC
Cara Forelli wrote:
Steve WingYip wrote:
The idea was previously, I have enjoyed doing PvP roams with groups of around 15 and my friends are not on anywhere near as much as I am , and I don't want to spend most of my time waiting for them to come on when I could do content with others as well :)

It sounds like you already know the main issue with creating your own corp. Two solutions

-Learn to love solo PvP
-Find out-of-corp options to PvP (public roams, alliance, etc.)

However, public roams aren't available 24/7 and it can be difficult to find a decent alliance (because really, what is your 5 man corp going to offer?)

So I think the better solution would be to convince your friends to join an established corp. Of course that's just my opinion. But there's nothing worse for your EVE career than getting lonely / playing by yourself and feeling trapped because you don't want to abandon your (offline) friends.


Yeah, that's basically it :)
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#11 - 2014-10-21 18:20:03 UTC
You have 4 more people to start with then I did. Big smile I've been CEO for almost as long as I have been a player because my IRL friends were down in some C6 while I was still derping Rifters and I got bored in hisec and wanted to sandbox. It turned out their out-of-game advice helped more then their ingame efforts, and diplomacy was a thing I very much enjoyed. I've had my ups and downs in terms of ingame victories, but I still immensely enjoy the scheming and plotting the game allows for in this role.

I have a feeling you'll do fine. It just comes down to studying the corp mechanics really well, and being able to deal with actual people instead of just their internet avatars. As long as you understand there's an underlining reason why the rest of us is trying to murder you back to hisec and don't get angry. Believe me, all you need in order to be a good CEO is charisma and patience. The rest can all be learned and it's not rocket science.