EVE General Discussion

Why if he can just post here and let someone else do the work for him?

The war should follow the toon however, for one week or until war expires, whichever is sooner. Simply put, if a war mechanic is going to exist in EvE it should be meaningful, not rendered completely meaningless by such a simple exploit of dropping corp and re-forming under another name. Bah.

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We didn't even make it past the first page before someone whipped out the "harassment" lie again.

For the record, it is not harassment to repeatedly wardec someone if they corp hop or dec dodge you. It is not harassment to suicide gank someone more than once if they continue to fail at defending themselves. They actually have to "make an effort" to avoid you, and that does not include blithely trying to pretend that EVE is a single player game.

You are allowed to make a point in EVE Online, and you are allowed to do it with someone else's repeated demise.

No. Wardec mechanics were already nerfed.

People are choosing to join or form corps, no one is forcing people out of NPC corps. Problem is there is no real consequence side of the join-a-corp equation if people can just drop corp to immediately duck any wars.

Bad wardec-mechanic is bad. Wars must follow someone dropping corp for one week (or until war end), whichever is sooner. This is fair. This is meaningful.

AFTER that is done, we can have a conversation about adjusting (upward) wardec fees, etc. After.

CCP: Its time to un-f#ck the war mechanic.

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Oh for sure that is an option, until your a new corp with a noob ceo, and no one knows how to pvp. Your not used to losing ships, and you would be right to say these guys shouldn't be CEO's or in these corps to begin with.

The members realize this and leave the corp to escape a bad thing that no one was ready for, but the wardec follows them as they are completely outclassed, and out skilled (RL skill not sp). Now they are stuck docked because they don't know how to avoid the fights otherwise, and when they move 50 jumps away and you locate them its even worse for them.

Either the bar for wardecing needs to be higher if your gonna have wardecs follow members who leave, or the bar to be a ceo needs to be higher so you can handle wardecs and teach your members how to deal with it. I don't see how the ladder could be implemented so the former would have to be, if you were going to have wardecs follow players.

Those corps wont stop existing, new players wont know any better. And ceo's taking advantage of new players till a wardec happens wont stop either.

Not every corp is great like ROC, you know and realize that, which is great, but nothing about that change would stop noob corps or ceo's from doing something stupid and the new members get ran out of the game because the wardecs follow them.

I'm all for showing new players what a stupid ceo or recruiter looks like. And what happens to a poorly managed corp, but once they leave, I wish them the best. I don't keep following them after they find out how fail the corp is.

I would be ok with this, in addition corp management skill should be restricted more then it is as well. If anything to give new players who want to start a "guild" time to learn to play the game before they rush off to ruin their own experience.

The only issue I have with a wardec that follows a player is that player might be too new to do anything about it, and I would say leave it up to the wardecer to choose if they want to follow that player or not, but people in general are happy to just get easy kills even at the cost of ruining the game for others.

It's no fun to be hunted down constantly by an experienced player who smacks you down with no idea on how to fight back, and now you have nothing better to do with your week of game play besides stay docked up. No that is not the only option but as a noob what would you do? (remembering that you don't know anything about eve at all)

I target bad corp's and CEOs all the time, matter of fact the kick queue is gonna cause me to change my game from extorting corps to extorting players directly. And yes I gank the inactive, the afker and the autopilot ships/pods, im all for teaching people by fire, but I don't want to toss new players under the bus in the name of stopping older players from dec dodging.

That is an option, not one I would prefer myself, but an option none the less.

You are in a high-sec "merc" alliance which does nothing but pick on newbros.

The fact that it is practical and economical for you guys to keep up wardecs on thousands of players in dozens of corps at once exemplifies the need for additional nerfs to the wardec system, such as a doubling of the wardec fee for each concurrent war declaration.


Sitting at Niarja and shooting people who are auto-piloting from Amarr to Jita is not being a brave little warrior, Feyd. It's shooting fish in a barrel. Don't act like your alliance's wars exist for any other reason, because they don't. You aren't removing POSes or POCOs; you aren't fighting over space, and you aren't attacking corps who have any connection to nullsec blocs. You're just shooting up helpless newbie mission-runners and miners.

And you are talking out of your ass.

Newbies don't have freighters and faction battleships pretty much by definition.




The fact that, to actually get kills, you are forced to wardec dozens of corps at once just exemplifies the need to buff the wardec system considerably.



And? EVE is a PvP game, first last and always. PvP is not just for one part of EVE, it is for every part. That includes highsec. And no one needs PvP visited on them more than the people trying to avoid it.

Take steps in your own defense, or you have consented to be destroyed.