Player Features and Ideas Discussion

All I hope is CCP actually takes into consideration some of our concerns hasn't seem to be much interaction after them posting the changes

Feel the pain of worthless optimal bonus on blasters.

Also, 10% tracking bonus on medium blasters is ******* insane.

It's almost like the ship is geared toward Railguns.

im not sure what you mean by tackle as theyre both heavy dictors... but if you mean a web/scramble the devoter fits one just fine.

The devoter has 3 mids plenty for prop mod + cap injector + utility

Medium pulse lasers have a more ideal engagement envelope for HICs than rails or blasters and they track better than rails.

The devoter has an extra low for a damage mod making up for the loss in damage while keeping the same tank

The devoter is better than the phobos in every way

I disagree that 50% extra tracking is going to be killer.

comparison of tech II beam vrs tech II 250 rails with just regualr tech I close range ammo shows the phobos native rails having a better tracking than beams.

though most would compare it to pulse with scorch. so yeah the pulse have better tracking but when using jav its not that bad. pluse have 36% better tracking and a 22.8 km engagement range with close range tech II ammo but a switch to antimater greatly increases engagement range up to 33.6 km which is slightly more than the long range ammo for pulse whch tops out at 31km.

So at max disruption range the only damage comming from the devoter is from its drones but the phobos can easy switch to uranium and hit what its tackled.

So each has thier own bonuses the pulse are great in longer then 10km but shorter then 30km and the blasters are g-d like for less then 10km and rails dominate after 30km.

plus having the 4th mid slot adds extra utlity for a small gang where you might not have dedicated e-war ships.

I am thinking ions with antimater and a mwd scram web and cap injector.

That is going to obliterate ships within range.


if you dont want to use a phobos by all means just stick to the ammar one. but i like tech II gal resist specally against kin/thermal heavy damage...

each to thier own i guess...

Looking at this from a tackle perspective (lets face it that's a HIC's main job, Im not gonna fit guns on it if it means I cant survive a bubble cycle)

The overheating on the Bubble makes little sense. If a HIC is being primed then 8/10 time he will need to drop bubble to survive. As the overheat will apply on the next cycle, overheating to get out of bubble is pointless as I cannot do it when I Need too.

You need to rethink what bonus the overheat gives as this current version makes little sense except in those niche circumstances.

"When a Rorqual, Dreadnaught, Carrier, Supercarrier or Titan is pointed by a focused point they will not be able to jump through gates.

This is to counter the power of brawling with your caps on lowsec gates, and if things go bad jumping through and cynoing out since nobody can bubble the other side."

Wow...you just keep throwing bad after the bad. Now that we have MADE supers and capital ships just like any other Sub-cap...NOW you take away an ability that EVER other sub cap has..... Do you even play this game?

The counter to caps crashing gate....which in and of it self is a slow process if they just came through, is just like any other gate action....You have guys that don't aggress and wait to jump through and bubble the other side. Seriously are you on drugs?

I truly am on the edge of my seat to see what other craptastic ideas come out of your crap idea factory.

I still think ccp needs to address the typical fit of a hic, which is usually double bub, cloak, probe.

I would truly consider that the issue is that the hictor bubble is a high slot module. It should probably be a medium slot module.

So remove 1 highslot from every hictor, add 1 medium slot to every hictor, move the interdictor bubble module to a medium slot.

You now free up the weapons platform, and move this interdiction module to where it should be, a medium slot.

That's your typical WH fit. I doubt many null folks put a probe launcher on their HIC. TBH, I keep a cloak in cargo, but rarely use it, and I never put a probe launcher on a HIC. I think you're just asking too much of your HIC.

Prober - check
Cloaker - check
Bubble - check
Other bubble - check
High damage - NOT check

Drop the cloak and/or the probe launcher and you get a lot better DPS.

Moving the bubble to a mid slot would cripple the shield HICs. They are already in the back seat as it is, let's not completely minimize them.

Null - cares about cap and being able to hold point and survive.
LS - cares about quick lock, infinite point and damage and tank to a lesser amount.
WH - well... you seem to want everything, so there is that.

Typically If a HIC is fitted for the Tackle purpose then it will be Bricked tanked with two bubbles one for Infa point and the other for bubble work.

Cloak and probes are more for WH's as the advantage of no local makes cloaking a hic very useful. The probes are for if the hic gets rolled out.

With these changes I can foresee a rise in DD oriented HIC's in lowsec however due to the longer bubble timer than the infa point timer, for any super/cap/bubbling work a full tanked double bubble is going to be the preferred setup