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I pretty much agree but the difficulty level of Hideaway and Burrow sites is mixed up. Hideaway sites are the easiest anomaly to complete in-game.

The order / escalation level should be this:

Hideaway sites escalate to DED 1/10.
Burrow sites escalate to DED 2/10.
Refuge sites escalate to DED 3/10.
Den sites escalate to DED 4/10.

Speaking of escalations, some of the expeditions from the Unrated Combat Signatures need to be rebalanced such as 'Jet Set Hooligans' gained from Serpentis Watch site. The difficulty level of that expedition is far more tougher than most of the other 'Watch' expeditions.



DMC

I was talking about the people who run them for their daily bread. Everybody who's in that profession knows what I mean and a decent prober who knows what he's doing is very hard to catch except for a remote-sebo'd camp.

I don't want to drive people out of this profession, I just want it to scale in difficulty and be more diversified. Rats are one way to do it, the current exploration design just needs you to be able to scan them down and hack a can. You can do that after a few days in Eve, every additional training only adds convenience to it. Every other profession has skills, danger and hard lessons increasing with the level of income you can generate. No matter which profession, industry/invention, mining, pve in all its different forms.

Oh and I agree, I don't want to go back to the old magneto and radar sites. But you could take the best out of each model and merge it into a more demanding and rewarding system. Require some different things than the usual gtfo scanning frig, make people put something on the line for higher rewards - thus you need to choose, slap some other mods on your ship and be able to run the high-end sites or rather be safe and only do the low-end sites.

This cannot be emphasized enough.

A fun way to fix the expedition issue would be to have two end systems
One is in the same sec band as the rest and offers the worse half of the loot table weighted
The other one drops a band and gets the better half of the table weighted

So now you risk, you get rewarded
Might be a clone renewal, but eh that's just a normal day in EVE

Just wanted to pop in and say thanks to the CCP Devs in this thread for listening to suggestions and incorporating adjustments based on our feedback.

Very happy to see the size of Datacores and Decryptors being dropped to 0.1 m3. That's a significant QOL change, and although it doesn't match the size of salvage from Relic sites (0.01 m3) it should still accommodate a longer play session before you have to drop off loot. Excited to see the upcoming additions of harder skilled Exploration sites hinted at during the EVE Vegas presentations. Also looking forward to how the "Generic" Decryptors and other changes will work for invention.

Also happy that additional skillbooks are being added to the harder sites - the Science skillbooks are a good match. A few people have cautioned against adding too many new skillboooks, as it will cause the price to crash from the additional supply. Consider removing some of the NPC seeds from Highsec stations for the skillbooks added to Data sites. That would reduce the supply but still have them accessible via market, and keep the price reasonable. A really good example of this already in place is the Neurotoxin Recovery and Neurotoxin Control skillbooks which are completely player seeded as they are only available from Drug Combat Sites.

I really hope that you will look at the manufacturing opportunities for all the new materials you are adding to the Data
Sites, as well as the ones that were used for manufacturing Data Interfaces, as they all have very limited uses, so the prices do not make them attractive to pick up. I also still haven't seen any suggestions on changing the BPC seeding in Data Sites to make the Uncommon drops a bit more profitable, the T2 Rig BPCs better TE/ME to compete with Invention, and what will replace the Interface BPCs.

That was a request from Corbexx at the CSM Summit :) you should thank him!

I want handpainted miniatu-- handmade portraits for all those characters that could be interessting eve lore but are completely sidelined.
How awesome would it be to actually see an info window that looked like a capsuleers "show info" on those guys.
That list is exteremly unordered - where the hell do you store such unordered lists AND WHY (how about relenvance (faction) or alphabetical - or is the code at the core of the game to old to handle that?*




Which is sadly lost within the tide of non-uniform pages that are badly made, out of date content and so on and so forth. Links to things that don't exist aren't helping that much either resulting in a lot of people not actually bothering to check evelopedia.** To be honest I want to figure something out I use eve-search and the rather excelent E-U wiki.


*Guess I'll have to do that for myself in a notepad or somesuch - when will team DOGMA have the engine for EVE - The Third Genesis ready? xD

**I just today stumbled on your faction standings plan in the oldforums while trying to figure out "datacores - wth?" and it had a link to CONCORD agents (evelopedia) which was rather interessting regarding my quest to do 1 mission for each NPC corp with agents in New Eden ... tl;dr imagine how saddened I was that there are no concord agents (allthough this is concruent with what the ingame agent finder told me to my dismay at the very beginning of said quest).

From a post in this very thread:

I took my tengu into null to see how much datas are worth before changes.

Done 2 central mining data sites. Looted only datacores, decryptors, skillbooks and BPC (there was no room for materials).
One can was empty, one can was blown (did not have the cargo scanner, i don't know what was inside).

About 20 mil loot from both sites.
Loot volume: 106m3
It's good but not fantastic result. It can't be judged after two sites ofc.

Do we need materials in data?
Relics provides salvage to build rigs, salvage can be obtained from different sources yet this sites are stil worth doing.
Maybe put some unique items that can be acquaire only by data sites? Non seeded on market? or with high end of useability?
I don't predict materials will be worth much, even after volume changes. BPC are crap, and they stay in that state, ppl have no idea how to evaluate worth of them, or just nobody want them because of how many already are. I looted capital liquid electronics T2 BPC once, not very usefull...

Patterns are:
relics: salvage + rigs BPC = manufacturing of rigs (or sell with good profit if don't want to manufacture).
datas: research equipment + faction materials + BPC + skill books + carbon(please for the love of higher being don't remove it, my grandma need fuel for the winter) = basically research + some trash isk from BPC and books. There are no very lucrative yet still needed items like in relics. Datacores after unification will lose on the value.

Relics have simple path: sell or manufacture.

Why there must be manufacturing/researching items anyway? Why not some hints how to find pirates bases (expeditions) some kind of maps that can be sell on market or use it. Something with link to word "data".

Will the expeditions from anomalies be adjusted also? Like the chance and the level of ded they escalate to ?

Oh and if you are at it, can you please fix some DEDs like blood raider's 3/10 that don't allow microwarpdrives?