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whats the appeal of ganking miners?
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Nevil Oscillator
#41 - 2014-10-19 21:41:19 UTC
Reading this has reduced my yield by 5%
Anslo
Scope Works
#42 - 2014-10-19 21:42:25 UTC
They're bad at actual pvp.

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True Sight
Deep Freeze Industries
#43 - 2014-10-19 21:44:01 UTC
Posts like this.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#44 - 2014-10-19 21:44:56 UTC  |  Edited by: IIshira
Anslo wrote:
They're bad at actual pvp.


Let me guess they should go to nullsec and do some "real PVP"


I love it when that's said in local...

Someone needs to come up with a "Top 10 things people say to gankers" list

LMAO
Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2014-10-19 21:47:41 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:


....when you can just join the corp, build trust, and safari the whole mining op?

Shocked

Your effort to tears ratio goes through the roof during such events.

Big smileCoolPirate




Honestly you don't even have to build trust, just join, wait for that mining op and let the emotions fly.

The best part of the whole thing is when you do it with a known awxoer, and they still dont suspect a thing!
Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2014-10-19 21:58:24 UTC
IIshira wrote:
Anslo wrote:
They're bad at actual pvp.


Let me guess they should go to nullsec and do some "real PVP"


I love it when that's said in local...

Someone needs to come up with a "Top 10 things people say to gankers" list

LMAO


CODE. and James 315 already did that,

They call it miner bingo

http://www.minerbumping.com/p/bingo.html
Viktor Fel
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#47 - 2014-10-19 22:03:58 UTC
Anslo wrote:
They're bad at actual pvp.


Yes, I admit I am bad at actual PvP. I am just some loser who can only gank miners. here is the proof from my kill boards. I mean really, what sort of horrid PVPer has 99.2% isk efficiency? Pirate

Oh...right, an experienced player who cut his teeth as a pirate starting at less than 1 million skill points, started FCing at 5 million skill points and has FCd for 2 power bloc alliances at one point or another over the past 2 years.

Killboard for Viktor Fel

Just thought I'd clear that up.

Who is Viktor Fel?

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#48 - 2014-10-19 22:23:13 UTC
Adira Nictor wrote:
IIshira wrote:
Anslo wrote:
They're bad at actual pvp.


Let me guess they should go to nullsec and do some "real PVP"


I love it when that's said in local...

Someone needs to come up with a "Top 10 things people say to gankers" list

LMAO


CODE. and James 315 already did that,

They call it miner bingo

http://www.minerbumping.com/p/bingo.html

Heh I was just about to look for that...

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Josef Djugashvilis
#49 - 2014-10-19 22:23:17 UTC
1upnate wrote:
like pvp is fun yeah... but isn't it only fun when its a challenge? kinda figure its like cheating in GTA... cool for like 20 minutes then it just becomes insanely boring.

anyone know the appeal of ganking miners?

just curious


Because they can.

Tears are a welcome bonus.

Fashions change, when I first started many pvp folk scorned those who ganked miners.

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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#50 - 2014-10-19 22:23:18 UTC
Adira Nictor wrote:
IIshira wrote:
Anslo wrote:
They're bad at actual pvp.


Let me guess they should go to nullsec and do some "real PVP"


I love it when that's said in local...

Someone needs to come up with a "Top 10 things people say to gankers" list

LMAO


CODE. and James 315 already did that,

They call it miner bingo

http://www.minerbumping.com/p/bingo.html


They don't have "I'm going to (Insert random bad thing) your (Insert female relative)"
Nevil Oscillator
#51 - 2014-10-19 22:33:10 UTC
Hey bragging, I'm good at that, I just killed a belt rat, well actually my drones did, does that count ?
These asteroids take some killing too, like to see you heavy pulse laser mash it up the way my rock cutter does.
Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
Citizen's Star Republic
#52 - 2014-10-19 22:34:14 UTC
Viktor Fel wrote:
1upnate wrote:
like pvp is fun yeah... but isn't it only fun when its a challenge? kinda figure its like cheating in GTA... cool for like 20 minutes then it just becomes insanely boring.

anyone know the appeal of ganking miners?

just curious


It is said that inexperienced military leaders talk about tactics; while the experienced leaders speak of logistics. The wars between the null-sec power blocs are not only fought in null-sec. There is always a hidden war within the war whenever the major null-sec powers of the EVE online class with one another, and it takes place in high sec. Most of the noncombat space peasantry that populates high-sec fail to recognize the fact that they are part of this hidden war.

While the scale and scope of this hidden war continues to evolve alongside the wars in null-sec; the fact remains that every neutral freighter, jump freighter, and miner is a potential target simply because that character may be engaged in the financing or resupply of a hostile alliance or power bloc. An enemy cannot fight you if said enemy has nothing to fight you with or if the financial burden becomes too great.

These people for the most part, do not care who they are selling their goods and services to the so long a tidy profit is made. They may sell to the CFC, but they are just as happy to sell to N3, PL, Nulli and others. That makes them as much threat as it does friend in my eyes. So I do what I and able to mitigate the affirmation threat.

There is no malice in my actions, any more than there is malicious intent when a miner, manufacture, or freighter pilot sells his goods and services to corporations, alliances, or coalitions that are hostile towards goons or our allies.

It is simply the nature of EVE online as it is meant to be; violent and intriguing. I personally find it a bit amusing that the high-sec space peasantry gets so angry about something that they finance and supply constantly without regard for anything save their wallets.


Put this in any personal context of matter to your position in the game....simply switch out the appropiate terms for who is the enemy or not an enemy........
or just take the basics and looks at what it boils down to...... "without regard for anything save their wallet" and these are the ones that deserve to be ganked.....the so called solo players that cry and whine becaus things are not safe for them to play but also do not wish to be part of a group or if they want to be, argue against thats groups established rules, taxes, etc and basically only want for themselves......these whiners are not carebears....but something worse.
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#53 - 2014-10-19 22:38:15 UTC
Why do children bully each other?

Why do some people set fires to other persons houses?

Why do people kick puppies?

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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#54 - 2014-10-19 22:42:10 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Why do children bully each other?

Why do some people set fires to other persons houses?

Why do people kick puppies?


Yes it all starts out bullying other kids. That leads kicking a few puppies then setting fires to houses. As the final step in their evil being they start to gank miners!
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#55 - 2014-10-20 00:11:43 UTC
I haven't read every response so I don't know if anyone has posted the obvious "because it's a video game and they can"?

I don't mine, but I do mission and fly ships that are mathmatically not worth ganking and have still had to dodge people trying to blow me up (like the old can flipping baiters and ninja slvagers in my missions). As a player I take pride in the fact that I don't fall for their bait, and that I fly safe, denying tears to people who want my tears.

I can't imagine grown men so pansified that someone trying to blow up an imaginary spaceship actually has a real effect on them. The gankers are prefectly well suited to this kind of game, as are the non-immature (real) PVErs who understand that they are the foxes trying to avoid the rabid hounds. it's the oversensative crybabie types that have made an incorrect choice in game to play. The gankers exploit their mistake.
Jack Hayson
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2014-10-20 00:25:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Hayson
IIshira wrote:
Anslo wrote:
They're bad at actual pvp.


Let me guess they should go to nullsec and do some "real PVP"

Does ganking miners in nullsec count? Roll


Viktor Fel wrote:
I mean really, what sort of horrid PVPer has 99.2% isk efficiency? Pirate

(ISK) efficiency doesn't mean anything when you regularly fly in large fleets because you share the kills but not the losses. The bigger the fleets the more extreme that effect gets:
If your fleet shoots 100 ships and loses 100 you might still get a 99% personal efficiency from it even if you blow up (last).
If your fleet shoots 1000 ships and loses 1000 you might even get a 99.9% personal efficiency even if you blow up (last). (or 100% if you don't blow up at all)

Looking at the average number of people on your killmails it's no surprise that you have a high efficiency. Hell, I usually fly logistics in much much smaller fleets than you and even I have a higher efficiency than you. (and still that doesn't tell you anything about me being good or bad at PvP because it's just a horrible way to compare PvP skill)
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#57 - 2014-10-20 00:31:31 UTC
Because of this forum threads

Evil RatKid
Brochan McLeod
Frigateer
#58 - 2014-10-20 00:33:08 UTC
Prince Sanguine wrote:
Tears are delicious. You try them sometime.


Don't you folks ever get tired of reading and spouting the same old hurtful crap at eachother, day in and day out?

Can't you just enjoy what you have and leave it at that?

Jeez....


Even the nicest person's patience has a limit!
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#59 - 2014-10-20 01:19:22 UTC
May as well write a real answer

It's absolutely fun to explode spaceships. There are fields of AFK miners in Highsec who just invite you to explode them. All you need is a Catalyst and zero preparation, you can just logon and start to dunk miners. And yes it is still fun to me to kill miners after almost a year. You never know what happens if you steer up some trouble in a new system by exploding some miners.

If I play solo I usually put my scout into a Stabber and make warpins by simply sitting at 0 on the AFK miner in the ice field. If he is not AFK they sometimes warp of and come back and try to scare me away with some bling ship or even try to gank me instead, which usually fails. Or some local wanabe hero may come in and rescue the miners which usually also ends in a disaster for him.

If I play in fleet then the fun part is the interaction with my fellow gankers which is usually a blast. There isn't usually a lot of exchange with the exploded subject in this format.

I find this interaction with other players much more fun than for example playing against a swarm of NPCs or shooting rocks or whatever. I treat EVE as a multiplayer game and the citizens of Highsec are my content.

Evil RatKid
Cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#60 - 2014-10-20 01:27:30 UTC
it has nothing to do with appeal.

Eve's economy is based on ships blowing up, think of it like old arcade games where you have to pay a quarter to play. CCP needs ships to go pop to keep the economy healthy. It has nothing to do with trolling or any other non sense. Ganking is just a way for ships, that do not engage in combat, to still go pop. Eve is a military economy.

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