EVE General Discussion

But if you blow em up, it's all over for them.

If I were writing about EVE these days (I'm not), I would speculate that a ton of dev effort these days is being spent on subscription retention. There's a lot of thought given to "Here's our end state goal. How do we get to it without pissing off too many of our existing customers?" Even Greyscale of all people in one of his posts mentioned that he wanted to implement his changes slowly enough for null-sec's player base not to shrink, or something to that effect.

At the summit, permadeath struck me as a one-off toy for people who are too bored or too jaded to play EVE any other way. The current lords of null-sec have had the game designed practically to their exact specifications for five years now. They're all unbelievably rich and for all practical purposes have every SP in the game. They've done it all and seen it all in pretty much every combination. They could quit EVE but why should they? They own the place. Let's hope that CCP's plan for the next year includes some eviction notices so that some new blood can try out that part of the game.

But that doesn't mean that CCP wants to lose the market the current lords of null-sec create for PLEXes, or the subscription numbers they represent.

So if this goes in, I see it as a cynical attempt to retain that market for another year or two.

[/garth]

Hell yes!!!

Before long, we will be able to hop aboard a speeder with our trusty panda sidekick, fighting the forces of evil with a butter knife that scales with your strength, upon the planet of Mongo.

Forget player-made stargates...

I fully embrace EVE Online: Rise Of The Pandaverse: Flash Strikes Back!!!

My body is ready.

so i can just spawn these permadeath alts... without training.. and if one dies.. i make a new one 4_4 wut??

and permadeath alts are sansha right? 3_3

So basicly they are saying the influx of new players is too low..

While the vest are leaving because of the blue donut... which was a direct result of the technetium fuckup

I bet most ppl playing because a "friend of theirs recommend it" or similar... But what happens if that "source" dries up.

yes! you guesd it! plex go's up!

Permadeath is a bad idea.
Depending on how you handle the skill point mechanic you either create a super risk averse playstyle (because death means losing possibly months or even years worth of SP) or you create powerful disposable alts.
It just doesn't work with the skill system we have in EvE.

I disagree, it's 100% on the hands of ccp to bring in new players, retain them and grow the game.. but they allowed the community to do their job with the "invite a friend mess". that's lazy and a cop out from a gaming company that has its head so far up a spreadsheet's exhaust that they're now looking even more absent minded on why new folks do not stick around.. at the same time they're stuck in a corner too afraid to make changes cause it may hurt their friends in power feelings.. that's why eve is stuck where it is.. the HTFU crowd pushed all the newbs away... the umm TMC laugh fest on why a newbie wow player who spent money tried to get into eve although being totally stupid doing so in his actions.. caused him to be on front street.. he went back and guess what he did.. he told his friends to not try eve cause of what he experienced.. the community itself is a double edge sword at getting new people to stay and play just as much as ccp is..

having alts IS forced on you for instance you decide to join the game and work as a freighter pilot.. it takes more than 1 to do a task.. folks want to try and hide that fact.. you must have a scout your friends may not be online as much.. matter of fact eve is the only game I know where it basically tells you to "train up an alt" at 1st sign up.. lol so yeah it does force you into alt madness. they made the game too difficult for one character... its "the power of two" that matters.

Were frakking cloned bodies. Permanent death doesn't fit this game.

What the hell ever happened to the old CCP that used to have a clear vision for the game instead of all these noobs coming in the picture? Everything was great until upper management hit us with that BS instant win crap and we all had to protest it. Sorry I am ranting...no offense but this is utter crap.

Meh. Let me brainstorm some stuff.

Not capsuleers but mortal elite captains. Don't train skills. Skillset defined by chosen class. Restricted to one ship size/class. Mandatory membership in factional warfare. no wallet, no market ability. Earns LPs through FW. Can buy equipment with LPs. Capsuleers can offer LPs for equipment. When ship dies not in capsule but in escape pod. No warp in escape pod. Will get moved to the designated FW station after a timer expires should the pod survive. LP store offers skill implants to improve the ship crew.

Bah. Still no good. A game has to be designed around this concept. It just doesn't work right with EVE.