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Yanking implants upon being pod scrammed

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Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-10-19 20:47:58 UTC
Now when your pod gets tackled you go to your character sheet and unplug al your hardwires and implants so your pod killmail will be worthless.
I am proposing Pods become like ships with PVP timers that you can't unplug the hardwirings/implants. (ships and T3s can't be ejected from with weapons timer)
Ghaustyl Kathix
Rising Thunder
#2 - 2014-10-19 20:51:29 UTC
Henry Plantgenet wrote:
Now when your pod gets tackled you go to your character sheet and unplug al your hardwires and implants so your pod killmail will be worthless.
If you have the time to do that, your opponents did something very wrong and deserve the loss of a shinier kill-mail. P
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#3 - 2014-10-19 20:53:53 UTC
or they are setting up to whore on the killmail, which should be punished by a less shiny km if they are too slow.

Talking more,

Flying crazier,

And drinking more

Making battleships worth the warp

Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-10-19 22:05:18 UTC
Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:
Henry Plantgenet wrote:
Now when your pod gets tackled you go to your character sheet and unplug al your hardwires and implants so your pod killmail will be worthless.
If you have the time to do that, your opponents did something very wrong and deserve the loss of a shinier kill-mail. P




this.....

pod lock and pop is no time at all compared to pulling a set of implants. Especially with the target trying to spam warp out at the same time until scrammed. WHoever fast locked for the scram should be pressing f1 and finishing this quickly.

Sounds like op's crew is doing the ole hey everyone run a train on the mail thing (which is why imo isk efficiency one of the most useless stats in eve....its easily padded to be of no true value).

If they'd just pop the pod this a non issue. Waiting for the slow ass targetter not sebo scan res'd....there goes the juicier km. Solution there real simple, tell the slow targetter to run sebo scan res'd, train elec. skills, or just tell him he is SOL and pop the pod.
Leonard Nimoy II
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-10-19 22:07:53 UTC
no thx.
Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-10-19 22:22:37 UTC
I just had some PVP action on my alt.
She had 5 +4s in and she was in a catalyst so easy target.
I started yanking implants when i was in a bubble so that the killmail purposefully would show an empty clone.
got podded, showed an empty pod on the mail, and i feel like i won the isk war.
took me about 5 seconds to unplug it all and i feel slightly dirty for skewing the killmails out of that fight.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#7 - 2014-10-19 22:40:24 UTC
Does yanking Implants destroy them. Yes.
Does shooting the pod destroy them. Yes.

Not seeing how this is exploiting the system, either way everything gets destroyed.
Onslaughtor
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#8 - 2014-10-19 23:02:28 UTC
Stats... lol

Clearly pods should not have killmails. Suddenly it goes from the statistic whoring and moves on to something more personal..
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2014-10-19 23:15:02 UTC
Onslaughtor wrote:
Stats... lol

Clearly pods should not have killmails. Suddenly it goes from the statistic whoring and moves on to something more personal..

Agreed, medical insurance rate adjustments are thorough for sure
Tappits
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#10 - 2014-10-19 23:45:54 UTC
Henry Plantgenet wrote:
I just had some PVP action on my alt.
She had 5 +4s in and she was in a catalyst so easy target.
I started yanking implants when i was in a bubble so that the killmail purposefully would show an empty clone.
got podded, showed an empty pod on the mail, and i feel like i won the isk war.
took me about 5 seconds to unplug it all and i feel slightly dirty for skewing the killmails out of that fight.



Who cares,,, sounds super tryhard. and a wast of dev time.
Mharius Skjem
Guardians of the Underworld
#11 - 2014-10-19 23:50:57 UTC
Henry Plantgenet wrote:
I just had some PVP action on my alt.
She had 5 +4s in and she was in a catalyst so easy target.
I started yanking implants when i was in a bubble so that the killmail purposefully would show an empty clone.
got podded, showed an empty pod on the mail, and i feel like i won the isk war.
took me about 5 seconds to unplug it all and i feel slightly dirty for skewing the killmails out of that fight.


There's nothing wrong with souring the enemy km.

If you can't win, lose on your own terms.

A recovering btter vet,  with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...

Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...

Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-10-20 00:04:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
Henry Plantgenet wrote:
I just had some PVP action on my alt.
She had 5 +4s in and she was in a catalyst so easy target.
I started yanking implants when i was in a bubble so that the killmail purposefully would show an empty clone.
got podded, showed an empty pod on the mail, and i feel like i won the isk war.
took me about 5 seconds to unplug it all and i feel slightly dirty for skewing the killmails out of that fight.



the isk war is won (edit: for the person who popped you) if you can't keep up replacing stuff chief.....not a stat on a killboard.



Example:

Goons vs Test.


Goons broke test's wallet. They could not run FRP/SRP well and as individuals many could not keep up personal replacements. towards the end test could not man fleets full strength due to lack of isk. This an isk war win.


Now lets have you decide to hunt down I don't know, lets say chribba. Your goal in life is to pop him every chance you can get. If you kill him 3 times a week with 1 bil implant sets....you still aren't winning an isk war with him. He probably makes this on just a few mommy 3rd party holding transactions. Amongst his other ventures. YOu see...you made him lose 3 bil in one week. He made say 6. he is still positive isk flow and you haven't even chipped away at his wallet.
Brigadine Ferathine
Presumed Dead Enterprises
Against ALL Authorities.
#13 - 2014-10-20 04:26:25 UTC
Henry Plantgenet wrote:
Now when your pod gets tackled you go to your character sheet and unplug al your hardwires and implants so your pod killmail will be worthless.
I am proposing Pods become like ships with PVP timers that you can't unplug the hardwirings/implants. (ships and T3s can't be ejected from with weapons timer)

What annoys me is they could hold you all day long. No incentive to kill you. Just sit there with a web/scram on you downtime to downtime. At least the way it is they have some sense of urgency to finish you. I like the way it is so I can carry on my day, we don't need to give the space trolls another tool to troll with.

Bad Idea
Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2014-10-20 06:34:25 UTC
Henry Plantgenet wrote:
Now when your pod gets tackled you go to your character sheet and unplug al your hardwires and implants so your pod killmail will be worthless.
I am proposing Pods become like ships with PVP timers that you can't unplug the hardwirings/implants. (ships and T3s can't be ejected from with weapons timer)


really is it that hard for you to kill a pod ?

-1
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#15 - 2014-10-20 08:15:27 UTC
/headdesk
/headdesk
/headdeak
/headdesk



**Gadget attempting to destroy her implants**

Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist

Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."

Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-10-20 09:16:29 UTC
I fail to see the problem here. considering one volley from any ship will destroy a capsule, the only time you would destroy your implants is when you have been tackled, but your aggressors are holding off on destroying you. In which case, they are giving you time to mitigate your killmail value.

The onus should be on the attacker of whether to stall the kill, and lose implants on the mail, or to just kill you right away and get them.

No fix needed.
Ix Method
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-10-20 10:14:09 UTC
+1

People this desperate to nurse their killboard will cry the loudest when it's ruined, isn't that really what it's all about in the end? Killboards are daft enough in the first place but given they're inevitable they may aswell be accurate.

Travelling at the speed of love.

Vesan Terakol
Trollgrin Sadface
Dark Taboo
#18 - 2014-10-20 11:37:15 UTC
I have always laughed at the very notion of reducing the value of the kill mail. Implant unplug being the less daft of the two cases i've encountered, jettisoning cargo being the worse.

As far as implants are concerned, I mean, how does it matter? You have lost the set, the opponent has won. Whether you deny him the intel / bragging rights, you've still lost. Or if you are the one who caught that pod - your opponent isn't keeping all those implants hidden somewhere. They're gone!

The extreme case is the cargo jettison, where you allow every single item to go reliably in the hands of your opponent just so it doesn't show up on your kill board.

Now, comparing this to bailing out of strategic cruisers has no ground to step on. You can't bail out of a ship as a consequence of people using that to avoid skill loss - an intended balance feature of strategic cruisers.

So, think about it! Cant you just accept that you've won?
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#19 - 2014-10-20 12:19:25 UTC
Henry Plantgenet wrote:
Now when your pod gets tackled you go to your character sheet and unplug al your hardwires and implants so your pod killmail will be worthless.
I am proposing Pods become like ships with PVP timers that you can't unplug the hardwirings/implants. (ships and T3s can't be ejected from with weapons timer)


Easy tip: Just don't hold the pod until even the Drake and the Raven whores onto it. Just shoot it.

Because, the only way you'd care about that would be by being a killmail-whore.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#20 - 2014-10-20 12:55:49 UTC
Lat them remove their implants, they will not hide it from themselves. Lol
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