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To kill a blockade runner

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FailingtheRorschach Test
Imperial Guardians
Tactical Narcotics Team
#1 - 2011-12-10 06:40:30 UTC
I see these running around nullsec. Are they hard to kill? What are the best strategies to bag one?

(This toon is a posting alt.)

Mittens Cedno
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2011-12-10 10:24:03 UTC
Blockade runners are designed for one thing and one thing only; to be hard to kill.

This makes them hard to kill.

Generally they're focused single mindedly on a destination, so being able to anticipate their warpout will help greatly if you're bubbling a gate. They'll pulse mwd then cloak to escape the bubble. Be there to decloak them.
Having cans strewn about can aid you in this.

If you can decloak and scram one, the tank won't hold out long. They align and warp so fast catching one is the hard part.

Should you succeed, they'll always have expensive cargo. Consider a ransom offer before you destroy one.

Short answer: super fast lock time and propulsion jamming.

William Walker
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#3 - 2011-12-10 13:14:56 UTC
I was once caught in my blockade runner, my prorator, and I jumped into the middle of a gatecamp. They luckily only had a drag bubble and I was cloaked and I just warped towards the next gate. A cerberus warped with me and I was caught in another drag bubble on the other side! He targeted me and I just calmly aligned to a celestial, once aligned I pressed my ECM Burst and disappeared.

So what I am saying is, be quick and try to setup something like that setup that almost caught me.

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Cap Tyrian
Guiding Hand Social Club
#4 - 2011-12-10 13:33:41 UTC
William Walker wrote:
I was once caught in my blockade runner, my prorator, and I jumped into the middle of a gatecamp. They luckily only had a drag bubble and I was cloaked and I just warped towards the next gate. A cerberus warped with me and I was caught in another drag bubble on the other side! He targeted me and I just calmly aligned to a celestial, once aligned I pressed my ECM Burst and disappeared.

So what I am saying is, be quick and try to setup something like that setup that almost caught me.


Blockade runners are the ones with the +2 warp strength , for amarr its the Impel . Prorators are paper air plains with a cloak. 2-4 1400mm ships are enough for blockade runners, given the right amo.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-12-10 14:32:51 UTC
Cap Tyrian wrote:
William Walker wrote:
I was once caught in my blockade runner, my prorator, and I jumped into the middle of a gatecamp. They luckily only had a drag bubble and I was cloaked and I just warped towards the next gate. A cerberus warped with me and I was caught in another drag bubble on the other side! He targeted me and I just calmly aligned to a celestial, once aligned I pressed my ECM Burst and disappeared.

So what I am saying is, be quick and try to setup something like that setup that almost caught me.


Blockade runners are the ones with the +2 warp strength , for amarr its the Impel . Prorators are paper air plains with a cloak. 2-4 1400mm ships are enough for blockade runners, given the right amo.



Umm you have it backwards. That would be the deep space transports.
Cap Tyrian
Guiding Hand Social Club
#6 - 2011-12-10 17:29:40 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Cap Tyrian wrote:
William Walker wrote:
I was once caught in my blockade runner, my prorator, and I jumped into the middle of a gatecamp. They luckily only had a drag bubble and I was cloaked and I just warped towards the next gate. A cerberus warped with me and I was caught in another drag bubble on the other side! He targeted me and I just calmly aligned to a celestial, once aligned I pressed my ECM Burst and disappeared.

So what I am saying is, be quick and try to setup something like that setup that almost caught me.


Blockade runners are the ones with the +2 warp strength , for amarr its the Impel . Prorators are paper air plains with a cloak. 2-4 1400mm ships are enough for blockade runners, given the right amo.



Umm you have it backwards. That would be the deep space transports.


Oh yes, :P my mistake

blockade runners are super easy pray, a single 1400mm fitted BS/BC can easily alpha most normally tanked blockade runners. astronautic rigs and cargo expanders weaken them even further.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-12-10 18:25:34 UTC
Cap Tyrian wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Cap Tyrian wrote:
William Walker wrote:
I was once caught in my blockade runner, my prorator, and I jumped into the middle of a gatecamp. They luckily only had a drag bubble and I was cloaked and I just warped towards the next gate. A cerberus warped with me and I was caught in another drag bubble on the other side! He targeted me and I just calmly aligned to a celestial, once aligned I pressed my ECM Burst and disappeared.

So what I am saying is, be quick and try to setup something like that setup that almost caught me.


Blockade runners are the ones with the +2 warp strength , for amarr its the Impel . Prorators are paper air plains with a cloak. 2-4 1400mm ships are enough for blockade runners, given the right amo.



Umm you have it backwards. That would be the deep space transports.


Oh yes, :P my mistake

blockade runners are super easy pray, a single 1400mm fitted BS/BC can easily alpha most normally tanked blockade runners. astronautic rigs and cargo expanders weaken them even further.



Well sure. They are not deigned to live if caught. They are designed to not get caught. My viator aligns as fast as a frigate.

Yes a DST can tank more, but it needs it since it takes like 30 seconds or more to align.
Shaotuk
Sin City Enterprises
#8 - 2011-12-10 23:37:29 UTC
Cap Tyrian wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Cap Tyrian wrote:
William Walker wrote:
I was once caught in my blockade runner, my prorator, and I jumped into the middle of a gatecamp. They luckily only had a drag bubble and I was cloaked and I just warped towards the next gate. A cerberus warped with me and I was caught in another drag bubble on the other side! He targeted me and I just calmly aligned to a celestial, once aligned I pressed my ECM Burst and disappeared.

So what I am saying is, be quick and try to setup something like that setup that almost caught me.


Blockade runners are the ones with the +2 warp strength , for amarr its the Impel . Prorators are paper air plains with a cloak. 2-4 1400mm ships are enough for blockade runners, given the right amo.



Umm you have it backwards. That would be the deep space transports.


Oh yes, :P my mistake

blockade runners are super easy pray, a single 1400mm fitted BS/BC can easily alpha most normally tanked blockade runners. astronautic rigs and cargo expanders weaken them even further.


You have never killed a properly fit blockade runner, so your advice is questionable.
X Mary
Lousy T-Shirt Corp
#9 - 2011-12-10 23:49:35 UTC
You need bubbles to kill a blockade runner.

A sabre with some ceptor backup will do.
Sit still at 0 on the gate with mwd running, as soon as you see him decloak on the gate drop the bubble and start burning for him. Adjust to full speed again when he cloaks and if you're double bubble drop another bubble. Having drones assigned to the fast ships also works wonders.
Tess La'Coil
Messerschmitt Vertrieb und Logistik
#10 - 2011-12-12 13:22:11 UTC
I got caught up in a Thrasher gatecamp a while back in my Viator, needless to say. Points were laid, but my 2450m/s MWD away from them got me out of gunrange and out of the 20km point so fast I didn't even have to tank one shot.

If you try to ransom a blockaderunner, you're most likely already too late and. Unless you have an Interceptor that's very keen on catching him..
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Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#11 - 2011-12-12 14:34:26 UTC
Ive caught a few with good scanning and catching them at COs. It's surprising they are willing to decloak with hostile ships on scan.

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Score
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2011-12-12 14:55:13 UTC
Ja, it's amazing how many people ignore directional...

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Salcon Cliff
Zephyr Corp
#13 - 2011-12-12 15:26:56 UTC
You pretty much have to bubble and decloak them. For an experienced BR pilot, it is not easy to do, but you can. There are also less experienced BR pilots who might panic and screw up. In any case, if you just randomly see one and decide you want to catch one, you are probably out of luck - it ain't likely to happen. OTOH, if you know where they are going to, set out a bubble and have a few friends with 5 drones out each (and maybe a few cans) you have a decent chance. Most BRs have MWD fitted and can haul some serious ass, so they won't stay in a bubble long. You have to decloak them before they can get out. The pissy part is you may never know if they have left your bubble or not. On one occasion I ended up staying in the bubble cloaked w/o using my MWD because they had bombers, an anchored bubble, and a HIC. I stayed in the bubble for quite a while slow-boating out, but you could tell they had assumed I had escaped long before I had.

Any half-way experienced pilot will most likely chose a DST for CO duties. The cloak on a BR won't work next to a CO anyway, but a DST with +2 stabs (or more) with a MWD can often tank a HIC bubble long enough to escape and also stave off a couple of points.
Mitchel Rei
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2011-12-13 07:22:58 UTC
I regularly roll with a warp stabbed blockade runner. That's what I like about Amarr Indies, lots of lows to work with.
Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels
The Obsidian Front - Reborn
#15 - 2011-12-13 11:27:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Ynot Eyob
Mittens Cedno wrote:
Blockade runners are designed for one thing and one thing only; to be hard to kill.

This makes them hard to kill.

... They'll pulse mwd then cloak ...




If they do this, you can just lock them with enough scan res (2500) as they are doing it wrong.

CLOAK FIRST - THEN MWD you have like 2 sec after you are cloaked where you can turn your MWD on for 1 cycle.

Anyway, if they do this, the rest of the suggestions might work.

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Anvil44
Avedis Corporation
The Vanguard Syndicate
#16 - 2011-12-13 19:34:39 UTC
Ynot Eyob wrote:
Mittens Cedno wrote:
Blockade runners are designed for one thing and one thing only; to be hard to kill.

This makes them hard to kill.

... They'll pulse mwd then cloak ...




If they do this, you can just lock them with enough scan res (2500) as they are doing it wrong.

CLOAK FIRST - THEN MWD you have like 2 sec after you are cloaked where you can turn your MWD on for 1 cycle.

Anyway, if they do this, the rest of the suggestions might work.


Quite possible. I've been playing Eve for more than 2 years and only learned 2 weeks ago that you can cloak first. So there is no doubt many others that don't know this as well. Either that or I'm just a real slow learner...Roll

I may not like you or your point of view but you have a right to voice it.

Dirk Smacker
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-12-13 20:16:43 UTC
I used to have an industrial setup that I did a ton of low sec transporting. You can catch a blockade runner in low sec, but it takes at least two fast tacklers at a gate and insta warp scram/disrupt.

I've only seen a few such camps in nearly a year, though. Pro camps usually attract company. I've lost two BR's in literally thousands of low sec jumps.

I guess once you have a signature, you cannot have a blank one.

Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels
The Obsidian Front - Reborn
#18 - 2011-12-14 08:55:56 UTC
A Sebo HIC should do the job really. Can tank gate guns if needed, have the range on the scram, but you do need to get as close to 2500 scan res which you problally need a remote sepo partner for.

Iv lost 2 viators on another toon, and in both ocations it was a HIC catching me.

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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2011-12-15 19:50:21 UTC
Cap Tyrian wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Cap Tyrian wrote:
William Walker wrote:
I was once caught in my blockade runner, my prorator, and I jumped into the middle of a gatecamp. They luckily only had a drag bubble and I was cloaked and I just warped towards the next gate. A cerberus warped with me and I was caught in another drag bubble on the other side! He targeted me and I just calmly aligned to a celestial, once aligned I pressed my ECM Burst and disappeared.

So what I am saying is, be quick and try to setup something like that setup that almost caught me.


Blockade runners are the ones with the +2 warp strength , for amarr its the Impel . Prorators are paper air plains with a cloak. 2-4 1400mm ships are enough for blockade runners, given the right amo.



Umm you have it backwards. That would be the deep space transports.


Oh yes, :P my mistake

blockade runners are super easy pray, a single 1400mm fitted BS/BC can easily alpha most normally tanked blockade runners. astronautic rigs and cargo expanders weaken them even further.


Have FUN trying to lock that BR with your 1400mm fitted BS/BC. In my expirience in LS BRs are almost uncatchable I personally played hide and seek with a four man gate camp more four times in an hour on the same gate as I was hauling cargo from low to high. You have literally less than a second to lock them before they transition from gate cloak to on board cloak and in that time they are nearly into warp. I can't speak to Null though, bubbles and gate garbage scare me... Shocked
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Tess La'Coil
Messerschmitt Vertrieb und Logistik
#20 - 2011-12-17 18:34:33 UTC
Cap Tyrian wrote:

blockade runners are super easy pray, a single 1400mm fitted BS/BC can easily alpha most normally tanked blockade runners. astronautic rigs and cargo expanders weaken them even further.

If you run into a BR with cargo expanders and astronautic cargo rigs fit.. you should be able to tell that he has no clue what his ship is intended to do.
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