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Arazu viability for solo pvp
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Marquis Dean
Skaecorp
#1 - 2014-10-18 06:20:50 UTC
Hello everybody.

I'm writing to gauge your opinion on flying arazu for picking solo fights in lowsec. I have seen a couple of builds, my main question is whether it is still a viable solution for solo.

More in depth, however, I want to know if you've flown it armor tanked / shield tanked and how did it fare in battle. Also do you run with both a WD and scram?

Any opinions on the matter offered by people who have had experience with this would be greatly appreciated.

Fly safe-ish.
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The Conference Elite
The Conference
#2 - 2014-10-18 07:12:55 UTC
Anything is (basically) able to solo anything. It all depends of circumstances.

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Marquis Dean
Skaecorp
#3 - 2014-10-19 06:52:42 UTC
wow, that informed me! so, yeah, circumstances... anything vs anything.

this post was definitely very informative. I mean srsly, nobody flies arazu eh?
Yan JTL
#4 - 2014-10-19 07:27:51 UTC
not really, they only shine in gangs. the only realy viable solo ewar cruiser is the pilgram/curse (whichever cloaks Pirate )
the rest have pretty shotty dps application and so often need others to help. it can one v one sort of using drones and guns but you would be hard pressed to find a one v one where your opponent doesnt have backup one jump out. however if your set on it then id find a kiting fit, preferably with a mwd, wd, 3 damps and a small armour fit with a drone control so you can kite easily out to 50 km and probably t2 rails for same reason.
l0rd carlos
the king asked me to guard the mountain
#5 - 2014-10-20 13:20:33 UTC
Yeah, Recon solo is hard.
Maybe tackle something that just got aggro from gateguns? And damp him at the same time + rails.

I would not do it.

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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#6 - 2014-10-20 13:54:48 UTC
Target selection is an important aspect of solo-ing in general, but in a Recon it's absolutely critical. You won't have much DPS and you won't have much tank, so the trick is to use stealth to look around trying to find targets that are easily killed.

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Plato Forko
123 Fake Street
#7 - 2014-10-20 21:16:52 UTC
it's definitely viable in the sense that any MWD-fit cruiser is vulnerable to being held at the edge of the Arazu's ~20km scram range and damped down so they can't shoot back, but targeting delay makes solo recon ops a really really hit-n-miss activity overall. the only two options are to a) decloak on grid and b) decloak en route. if you decloak on grid, you will be noticed immediately and any viable target will have enough time to align and GTFO. if you decloak en route, then you're playing with chance because either the target will see you on dscan and align ready to jetand if they're mobile then there's a chance they're either outside your scram range when you land and have the opportunity to kite away from your slow ass, or they will be close enough to get on top of you and burn you down at point blank range.

so basically because of the targeting delay it's really hard to hunt actual PvPers since you need to rely on the target to not pay attention for the 6 seconds that delay lasts.
Meloni HELL
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-10-22 08:19:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Meloni HELL
Get a rapier buddy, and hunt explorers - damp their range down, web them and slowly kill them. Don't try to kill snipers I guess.
Yuri Antollare
Moira.
#9 - 2014-10-23 08:16:36 UTC
[Arazu, Solo]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

10MN Afterburner II
True Sansha Warp Scrambler
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
200mm Railgun II
200mm Railgun II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump 1

If you are fighting strictly 1v1 this is one of the most powerfull setups in the game, scram kite outside of locking range.
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#10 - 2014-10-23 11:23:40 UTC
Yuri Antollare wrote:
[Arazu, Solo]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

10MN Afterburner II
True Sansha Warp Scrambler
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
200mm Railgun II
200mm Railgun II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump 1

If you are fighting strictly 1v1 this is one of the most powerfull setups in the game, scram kite outside of locking range.



You'd better pray that your target doesn't have an afterburner because you're going to be wallowing around like a brick in that thing. Also, with the pitiful DPS you'd be putting out it's entirely possible that you'd get eaten alive by drones or even FoF missiles before you could kill anything.

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Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#11 - 2014-10-23 16:43:11 UTC
Arazu can permatackle things and potentially kill them with drones. But a 1600mm plated Arazu with only an AB is going to get shredded.

I've tried both amor and shield tanked Arazus. I much prefer a single LSE and nano stuff in the lows. triple damps, long point, MWD. If you can out run it and keep it in your long point range, you can eventually kill it.

WTB Recon rebalance. Help us, CCP Fozzie. You're our only hope.

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Yuri Antollare
Moira.
#12 - 2014-10-26 02:50:24 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Yuri Antollare wrote:
[Arazu, Solo]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

10MN Afterburner II
True Sansha Warp Scrambler
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
200mm Railgun II
200mm Railgun II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump 1

If you are fighting strictly 1v1 this is one of the most powerfull setups in the game, scram kite outside of locking range.



You'd better pray that your target doesn't have an afterburner because you're going to be wallowing around like a brick in that thing. Also, with the pitiful DPS you'd be putting out it's entirely possible that you'd get eaten alive by drones or even FoF missiles before you could kill anything.



It's not a hypothetical fit, it's been proven time and again.

Should go without saying there is little "praying" in regards to target selection, your ability to fight exactly what you want is the essence of recon solo.

Barring fighting an AB frigate or going into a medium plex with a VNI on the warp in, how prevelant do you think afterburners are with larger ships? I must admit I can't remember the last time I saw an AB hurricane or Megathron but I suspect they too might struggle against an 18km (non boosted) defensive web and 27km scram. Not to mention anything that has its own webs is struggling with single digit lock range with just one of your 3 damps OH'd.

But hey ho, to each their own.

The blob puts down this particular target, but the Brutix was dead from the moment he landed on grid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCYIG08mGQA

Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-11-01 23:58:28 UTC
Arazu is for tackling and lighting cyno's, not solo.

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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#14 - 2014-11-02 12:32:01 UTC
Don't be daft.

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