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Sarres
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-10-16 13:25:10 UTC
Hi guys,

I tend to come and go when it comes to EvE.

Every time when I'm back, there was a corp mate that would help me with my problem.
This time, I left my old corp and a new one is not really active :/ (like two active guys O_o)

It's always the same problem. After not playing for months I am completely lost with all the changes, new modules and mechanics.

For the last few days I was looking for a fit but all I could find was either not Amarr or well out dated.

Can someone help me with a all-in-one, hisec exploration boat?

Also, due to my RP/aesthetics fetish, could I have Amarr only ship?

Personally I was looking into Pilgrim but I read somewhere that running sites with them is slow quite annoying. (correct me if I'm wrong here)

Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#2 - 2014-10-16 14:24:08 UTC
Hard one.
All in one means good in scanning and hacking / analyzing, as well as capable of running up to 4/10s.

I'd roll with a Stratios, it's a micture between Amarr and Gallente.

Look it up, and carry all mods you could also need with you.
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#3 - 2014-10-16 14:53:18 UTC
Hell, maybe if you're lucky the Recon-rebalance on the horizon will give the recon ships some moderate scan-/explo-bonuses.

If that happens, you can use a Pilgrim as your Amarr-only ship. Right now you could, but you would need perfect skills and two grav-mods to offset the loss of the scan-bonus. Also the Stratios has a virus-strength bonus, not really a problem losing that if you use T2-modules, but not having it can be annoying.

So Stratios or Pilgrim, depending on your skill and/or determination.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#4 - 2014-10-16 17:37:49 UTC
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#5 - 2014-10-16 17:41:26 UTC
Yeah, well. The Legion is also an option for Amarr. Lol
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#6 - 2014-10-16 17:45:36 UTC
The high sec requirement is actually limiting you quite a bit here as well as the Legion makes a fine all-in-one in low sec (so long as you stick to enemies that lasers are effective against).

But as your requirements stand? You could get away with an Arbitrator. The main advantage a Pilgrim provides is the ability to cloak (which you hardly need in high sec). Likewise, a Curse is viable for the same reasons, as is a Sac. I wouldn't take a Zealot though; the lack of drones doesn't play well against high sec sites.

If I were going by your full list of restrictions I'd likely look at something along these lines:

[Sacrilege, L3s]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Imperial Navy Armor EM Hardener
Imperial Navy Armor Thermic Hardener

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Scan Rangefinding Array I
Large Peroxide Capacitor Power Cell

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Heavy Assault Missile
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe

Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I

Carry a mobile depot if you want hacking stuff and you should be fine.
Sarres
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-10-16 19:32:40 UTC
Thank you for all the answers!

Legion is an option for future as even though I can fly it, I don't think I can fit it (lack of skills).
I wanted to spend some time in highsec so I can train skills and in the meantime get used to running sites in a relatively safe environment. (yes, I could see myself killed by rats ;) )

I read somewhere that some sites will not allow a T3 so that's another reason why I think I should wait before I'll take Legion for a spin.

I do have some skills in drones so in the future I would like to go in that direction too.

Thanks Zhilia Mann for the fit.

I still have few days before I can fly it (Weapon Upgrades V) so is there a chance for a temporary fit for Arbitrator?
Assuming that there is a point in flying it. I can always run some missions before Sacrilege.

I know that my restrictions are pain in the bum but it is important for me to stay Amarr.
I probably could go with an "Amarr / other faction" mix ship.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#8 - 2014-10-16 21:22:33 UTC
Zhilia,

I think you can ditch the painter and swap it for a web.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

Aura sound-clips: Aura forever
Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-10-16 23:03:16 UTC
Have you considered trial and error?

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.
Jon Illat
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#10 - 2014-10-17 00:07:58 UTC
Sarres wrote:
Thank you for all the answers!

Legion is an option for future as even though I can fly it, I don't think I can fit it (lack of skills).
I wanted to spend some time in highsec so I can train skills and in the meantime get used to running sites in a relatively safe environment. (yes, I could see myself killed by rats ;) )

I read somewhere that some sites will not allow a T3 so that's another reason why I think I should wait before I'll take Legion for a spin.

I do have some skills in drones so in the future I would like to go in that direction too.

Thanks Zhilia Mann for the fit.

I still have few days before I can fly it (Weapon Upgrades V) so is there a chance for a temporary fit for Arbitrator?
Assuming that there is a point in flying it. I can always run some missions before Sacrilege.

I know that my restrictions are pain in the bum but it is important for me to stay Amarr.
I probably could go with an "Amarr / other faction" mix ship.


Can't help with the ships, I'm a pure Minmatar/Angel pilot sorry.

As for the running HS combat sites, you're correct in believing that some sites don't allow T3 cruisers. DED 3/10 and 4/10 sites do not allow T3s to use the gates, and they are generally the most profitable sites to run in HS.
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#11 - 2014-10-17 03:13:11 UTC
May be outside your preference zone, but the Stratios is a good high sec exploration ship. It uses Amarr starship skills for part of it's bonuses. Good with lasers and drones.
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#12 - 2014-10-18 11:14:18 UTC
If you want to stay T1 for a while and the Magnate is too small for you, maybe try a Dragoon? The Amarr destroyer is a surprisingly good exploration boat thanks to the many utility-highslots and using drones as main weapons.

If you expect rats to hang close-by, you can even take some energy-vamps to abuse the infinite cap rats have. Mind you, rats stop giving you cap after a while, but rats are plenty. In most cases, you can leave one-two small rats alive and just drain them alternatively.

Also always a plus, if you stray outside highsec some vamps and drones allow you some nasty surprises for your fellow explorers. Pirate

In fact, with reasonable skills you can fly a Dragoon like a cheaper, slower, but more dangerous version of the Astero.
Verdis deMosays
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-10-19 01:19:56 UTC
Owen Levanth wrote:
If you want to stay T1 for a while and the Magnate is too small for you, maybe try a Dragoon? The Amarr destroyer is a surprisingly good exploration boat thanks to the many utility-highslots and using drones as main weapons.

If you expect rats to hang close-by, you can even take some energy-vamps to abuse the infinite cap rats have. Mind you, rats stop giving you cap after a while, but rats are plenty. In most cases, you can leave one-two small rats alive and just drain them alternatively.

Also always a plus, if you stray outside highsec some vamps and drones allow you some nasty surprises for your fellow explorers. Pirate

In fact, with reasonable skills you can fly a Dragoon like a cheaper, slower, but more dangerous version of the Astero.


Dragoons are quite nice, and very useful for surprise PvP encounters since no one knows how to handle them. Personally, I use an Arbitrator as a site boat for HS amarrian exploration. Good with sentries and beams, and plenty of room for a core probe launcher. Don't have the fit handy, but hit me up in game and I'll link it.

For the T3, I've never flown legion, but I know it'll lock you out of about 70% of the combat sites in high sec, so I'd look hard at that before buying. Found that out with my tengu. However, should you get escalations, it'll eat them for lunch. So might be worth keeping around.

Also, if you can handle the rp negative of gallente cruiser skills, the Stratios is the go to for me. Will run anything in high sec, top an easy, long cap life, 600 DPS in site fit, and a mobile depot will let you hack any site you can find, including covert sites. Just use an explosive hardener and a plate for those...that 10k boom hurts.

To tell you about that boats toughness, we use them for everything in wormhole space. Nuff said.

Hit me up in game if you like, I love fit crafting, and I've flown a lot of exploration.

*wandering wormholer signing off*
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#14 - 2014-10-19 15:31:31 UTC
Verdis deMosays wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
If you want to stay T1 for a while and the Magnate is too small for you, maybe try a Dragoon? The Amarr destroyer is a surprisingly good exploration boat thanks to the many utility-highslots and using drones as main weapons.

If you expect rats to hang close-by, you can even take some energy-vamps to abuse the infinite cap rats have. Mind you, rats stop giving you cap after a while, but rats are plenty. In most cases, you can leave one-two small rats alive and just drain them alternatively.

Also always a plus, if you stray outside highsec some vamps and drones allow you some nasty surprises for your fellow explorers. Pirate

In fact, with reasonable skills you can fly a Dragoon like a cheaper, slower, but more dangerous version of the Astero.


Dragoons are quite nice, and very useful for surprise PvP encounters since no one knows how to handle them. Personally, I use an Arbitrator as a site boat for HS amarrian exploration. Good with sentries and beams, and plenty of room for a core probe launcher. Don't have the fit handy, but hit me up in game and I'll link it.

For the T3, I've never flown legion, but I know it'll lock you out of about 70% of the combat sites in high sec, so I'd look hard at that before buying. Found that out with my tengu. However, should you get escalations, it'll eat them for lunch. So might be worth keeping around.

Also, if you can handle the rp negative of gallente cruiser skills, the Stratios is the go to for me. Will run anything in high sec, top an easy, long cap life, 600 DPS in site fit, and a mobile depot will let you hack any site you can find, including covert sites. Just use an explosive hardener and a plate for those...that 10k boom hurts.

To tell you about that boats toughness, we use them for everything in wormhole space. Nuff said.

Hit me up in game if you like, I love fit crafting, and I've flown a lot of exploration.

*wandering wormholer signing off*


Adding to that, learning skills for a Dragoon will soon make you able to use one of the new Amarr T3-destroyers. So if you're skilling into Amarr-destroyers now, you could be ready to be one of the first pilots flying the new ship when it comes in December. (Yes I watched the Eve Vegas stream on Twitch.)