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Real reason for socket closed

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YuIia
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-10-17 17:29:58 UTC

The problem seems like its a client bug or eve server issue, not ddos. Let me explain:

At work I have to play eve off the wifi, and I get socked closed every 5mins on it because the connection ping spikes every so often. The issue is that eve immedietly kicks you out when this happens instead of waiting for your client to respond and catch up. I can play battlefield 4 on 64 player servers off this wifi connection and only get a tiny ping spike when this happens, but when I run eve I get socket closed every single time.

At home, on my lan and good connection I only get socket closed every few nights, and that may be from the ddos CCP is reporting, but the real problem is the fact the server will disconnect you the very second your ping fluctuates instead of waiting for your connection to catch up.

CCP I would like you to be honest and explain to your players that there is a client/server issue that started with one of these expansions a few months ago. Before this I never had any reoccuring socket closed problems.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#2 - 2014-10-17 17:31:03 UTC
Its at the ISP level

I can assure you

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Pen Ris
Eden Risk Management
Fedaykin.
#3 - 2014-10-17 17:33:07 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Its at the ISP level

I can assure you

CCP, is that you? Big smile
Paranoid Loyd
#4 - 2014-10-17 17:33:57 UTC
Did you try turning it off and then back on again?

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Miko Jin
HELVEGEN
#5 - 2014-10-17 17:35:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Miko Jin
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Its at the ISP level

I can assure you


Opinion and conjecture.

Post facts so your comment has relevance. Posting without any data or facts to back up your comment makes you look stupid.
Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#6 - 2014-10-17 17:39:59 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Its at the ISP level

I can assure you

Well, actually, I have researched a bit about the "socket closed" on my side, since I have noticed it in other "connection sensitive" applications that I use. Yes, it's true that the error is appearing more frequently in the last couple of months, but at least in my case it's not CCP's or ISP's fault (well, mostly Smile). Most of the times it's the DNS. I have been switching my DNS configuration and testing out different servers with different results until I've finally switched to Google's public DNS (I don't like it, but it seems the most stable at the moment). "Socket closed" is now mostly gone for me.

Of course, your cause of socket closed could be entirely different.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#7 - 2014-10-17 17:40:17 UTC
funny, I've been running 2 clients at the same time and one will "socket closed" and the other will stay connected

admittedly my connection craps out for a brief moment every now and then, and the one that stays connected hasn't tried to do anything during that. it seems that as long as you don't interact with the client at all it stays connected for a fairly long time, where if you try to do something and it doesn't get a response it will DC you.

and yes, every socket closed I've had it seems something has messed up in the middle somewhere, although more often than not it is closer to my end than anything else.

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Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-10-17 17:40:24 UTC
Miko Jin wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Its at the ISP level

I can assure you


Opinion and conjecture.

Post facts so your comment has relevance. Posting without any data or facts to back up your comment makes you look stupid.

Someone should mention this to the OP
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#9 - 2014-10-17 17:45:41 UTC
Rowells wrote:
Miko Jin wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Its at the ISP level

I can assure you


Opinion and conjecture.

Post facts so your comment has relevance. Posting without any data or facts to back up your comment makes you look stupid.

Someone should mention this to the OP


What? You don't blindly trust an NPC Forum Alts's assessment of the 'Closed Socket' "problem"?

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Miko Jin
HELVEGEN
#10 - 2014-10-17 17:45:58 UTC
Rowells wrote:
Miko Jin wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Its at the ISP level

I can assure you


Opinion and conjecture.

Post facts so your comment has relevance. Posting without any data or facts to back up your comment makes you look stupid.

Someone should mention this to the OP


I agree.
Iain Cariaba
#11 - 2014-10-17 18:05:24 UTC
I play EvE using a shared wifi connection in the building I live in, and hardly ever get closed sockets running multiple clients. Suggest OP's issue is local.
YuIia
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-10-17 18:07:33 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
I play EvE using a shared wifi connection in the building I live in, and hardly ever get closed sockets running multiple clients. Suggest OP's issue is local.


If you would have read or understood my post my issue is that my connection has ping spikes every 5-10mins and every single time this happens I get socket closed in eve, however other online games such as battlefield 4 have no problems. Surely a 64 player match of battlefield 4 is more demanding than 5 people in local in eve.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#13 - 2014-10-17 18:14:37 UTC
Miko Jin wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Its at the ISP level

I can assure you


Opinion and conjecture.

Post facts so your comment has relevance. Posting without any data or facts to back up your comment makes you look stupid.


Said the person who didn't post any data or facts.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2014-10-17 18:15:54 UTC
YuIia wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
I play EvE using a shared wifi connection in the building I live in, and hardly ever get closed sockets running multiple clients. Suggest OP's issue is local.


If you would have read or understood my post my issue is that my connection has ping spikes every 5-10mins and every single time this happens I get socket closed in eve, however other online games such as battlefield 4 have no problems. Surely a 64 player match of battlefield 4 is more demanding than 5 people in local in eve.


Its not just 5 people in local...
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#15 - 2014-10-17 18:16:00 UTC
It's just all the coal piling up in the socks.

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Miko Jin
HELVEGEN
#16 - 2014-10-17 18:16:17 UTC
YuIia wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
I play EvE using a shared wifi connection in the building I live in, and hardly ever get closed sockets running multiple clients. Suggest OP's issue is local.


If you would have read or understood my post my issue is that my connection has ping spikes every 5-10mins and every single time this happens I get socket closed in eve, however other online games such as battlefield 4 have no problems. Surely a 64 player match of battlefield 4 is more demanding than 5 people in local in eve.


I have a colleague that I used to work with complaining of a similar issue and after a lot of investigation it boiled down to him having his modem/router on the opposite side of a wall to his microwave oven and every time the oven was used he got dc'd but he didn't realise until he moved his modem/router.
Maybe it can be as simple as that or could be your isp/route.
Miko Jin
HELVEGEN
#17 - 2014-10-17 18:17:12 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Miko Jin wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Its at the ISP level

I can assure you


Opinion and conjecture.

Post facts so your comment has relevance. Posting without any data or facts to back up your comment makes you look stupid.


Said the person who didn't post any data or facts.


Troll somewhere else.
Paranoid Loyd
#18 - 2014-10-17 18:20:27 UTC
Stick your finger in the socket to stop it from closing.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
YuIia
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2014-10-17 18:22:48 UTC
Miko Jin wrote:
YuIia wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
I play EvE using a shared wifi connection in the building I live in, and hardly ever get closed sockets running multiple clients. Suggest OP's issue is local.


If you would have read or understood my post my issue is that my connection has ping spikes every 5-10mins and every single time this happens I get socket closed in eve, however other online games such as battlefield 4 have no problems. Surely a 64 player match of battlefield 4 is more demanding than 5 people in local in eve.


I have a colleague that I used to work with complaining of a similar issue and after a lot of investigation it boiled down to him having his modem/router on the opposite side of a wall to his microwave oven and every time the oven was used he got dc'd but he didn't realise until he moved his modem/router.
Maybe it can be as simple as that or could be your isp/route.


Regardless of the issue I'm having with my wifi, my point is that other online games can stay connected during my ping fluctuations on the wifi, however eve will socket close every single time. I really cant remember a time I lagged out in eve for more than a few seconds, because when that happens its always socket closed even on my good wired in connection.

I am not seeing it as a coincidence that other games can stay connected and eve can't for only the last few months.

Keep in mind I've been playing since 2010, and on this work connection since then too. This only started happening a few months ago.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#20 - 2014-10-17 18:24:06 UTC
Miko Jin wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Its at the ISP level

I can assure you


Opinion and conjecture.



Nope

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
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