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Sniper Module (passive low slot)
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Flashrain
Dragon.
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2014-10-17 13:59:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Flashrain
Feature : Allow extensive sniping configuration for all ships and weapons

Negative :
- Massively mass addition 900%
- Massively decrease agility by 90%
- Warp speed reduced by 90%
- Decrease all shield and armor resistance by 90%
- Decrease all shield and armor by 90%

- Can not engage cloak while aggression timer is going.

Positive :
- Massively increase all gun range and missile speed. 900%
- Massively increase all gun and missile damage 900%
- Massively increase lock range 900%
- Allow locking while cloaked
- Allow warping while cloaked







Note with this module you basically have .......







ONE SHOT...



Those thinking about a super battleship /dread fitting this mod - a t1 frig can take you down if you screw up.
Petre en Thielles
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-10-17 14:12:08 UTC
Flashrain wrote:
Feature : Allow extensive sniping configuration for all ships and weapons



Positive :
- Massively increase all gun range and missile speed. 900%
- Massively increase all gun and missile damage 900%
- Massively increase lock range 900%
- Allow locking while cloaked
- Allow warping while cloaked



Negative :
- Massively decrease tracking speed by 90%
- Massively mass addition 900%
- Massively decrease agility by 90%
- Warp speed reduced by 90%
- Decrease all shield and armor resistance by 90%
- Decrease all shield and armor by 90%
- Can not engage cloak while aggression timer is going.


Absolutely not...my personal sniping BS has a 180k range (and i know that is nowhere near maxed). You want to give that a 900% boost, AND let it lock and warp while cloaked?

massive -1
Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#3 - 2014-10-17 14:14:11 UTC
Flashrain wrote:
Feature : Allow extensive sniping configuration for all ships and weapons



Positive :
- Massively increase all gun range and missile speed. 900%
- Massively increase all gun and missile damage 900%
- Massively increase lock range 900%
- Allow locking while cloaked
- Allow warping while cloaked



Negative :
- Massively decrease tracking speed by 90%
- Massively mass addition 900%
- Massively decrease agility by 90%
- Warp speed reduced by 90%
- Decrease all shield and armor resistance by 90%
- Decrease all shield and armor by 90%
- Can not engage cloak while aggression timer is going.



Nooooo
This is like that horribad cloakmarines post 2 days ago
1. Nothing should be able to target while cloaked
2. Theres a Hard lock at 250Kms so no point trying to go higher, especially since most grids wont stretch to that Plus 900%
3. A damage buff of 900%? So my rail Kronos that already does 700 could do over 6K DPS to a cruiser? And at ridiculous ranges too? No thank you to OP
4. If you want to warp cloaked, get a Covops
5. You dont need missiles going 20,000m/s, ever
6. If you do need quick missiles, buy Mordu!
7. Just generally a horribly unbalanced idea, Absolutely not, and i think you'll find im not the only one who thinks so either

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Petre en Thielles
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-10-17 14:24:20 UTC
Christopher Mabata wrote:
Flashrain wrote:
Feature : Allow extensive sniping configuration for all ships and weapons



Positive :
- Massively increase all gun range and missile speed. 900%
- Massively increase all gun and missile damage 900%
- Massively increase lock range 900%
- Allow locking while cloaked
- Allow warping while cloaked



Negative :
- Massively decrease tracking speed by 90%
- Massively mass addition 900%
- Massively decrease agility by 90%
- Warp speed reduced by 90%
- Decrease all shield and armor resistance by 90%
- Decrease all shield and armor by 90%
- Can not engage cloak while aggression timer is going.



Nooooo
This is like that horribad cloakmarines post 2 days ago
1. Nothing should be able to target while cloaked
2. Theres a Hard lock at 250Kms so no point trying to go higher, especially since most grids wont stretch to that Plus 900%
3. A damage buff of 900%? So my rail Kronos that already does 700 could do over 6K DPS to a cruiser? And at ridiculous ranges too? No thank you to OP
4. If you want to warp cloaked, get a Covops
5. You dont need missiles going 20,000m/s, ever
6. If you do need quick missiles, buy Mordu!
7. Just generally a horribly unbalanced idea, Absolutely not, and i think you'll find im not the only one who thinks so either


Posting -1 again, because this is that bad of an idea.

With this change I could have over a 90k alpha with a tornado. oh the ganks...
Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#5 - 2014-10-17 14:25:31 UTC
Petre en Thielles wrote:
Christopher Mabata wrote:
Flashrain wrote:
Feature : Allow extensive sniping configuration for all ships and weapons



Positive :
- Massively increase all gun range and missile speed. 900%
- Massively increase all gun and missile damage 900%
- Massively increase lock range 900%
- Allow locking while cloaked
- Allow warping while cloaked



Negative :
- Massively decrease tracking speed by 90%
- Massively mass addition 900%
- Massively decrease agility by 90%
- Warp speed reduced by 90%
- Decrease all shield and armor resistance by 90%
- Decrease all shield and armor by 90%
- Can not engage cloak while aggression timer is going.



Nooooo
This is like that horribad cloakmarines post 2 days ago
1. Nothing should be able to target while cloaked
2. Theres a Hard lock at 250Kms so no point trying to go higher, especially since most grids wont stretch to that Plus 900%
3. A damage buff of 900%? So my rail Kronos that already does 700 could do over 6K DPS to a cruiser? And at ridiculous ranges too? No thank you to OP
4. If you want to warp cloaked, get a Covops
5. You dont need missiles going 20,000m/s, ever
6. If you do need quick missiles, buy Mordu!
7. Just generally a horribly unbalanced idea, Absolutely not, and i think you'll find im not the only one who thinks so either


Posting -1 again, because this is that bad of an idea.

With this change I could have over a 90k alpha with a tornado. oh the ganks...


Not to mention you could do it from 700 klicks out, you think carebears dont see it coming now? wait till your golem gets alphaed from so far away you didnt even register a threat

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Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#6 - 2014-10-17 15:18:45 UTC
Massively OP and ill thought out.

Not supported.

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Netan MalDoran
Hail To The King
The Silent Syndicate
#7 - 2014-10-17 16:09:33 UTC
So you want Nagas that can snipe at 2250km away having 9 ships between you and your target to keep the grid open?

BIG ASS NO, just biomass now.

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FireFrenzy
Cynosural Samurai
#8 - 2014-10-17 16:23:37 UTC
Netan MalDoran wrote:
So you want Nagas that can snipe at 2250km away having 9 ships between you and your target to keep the grid open?

BIG ASS NO, just biomass now.


The biomassing is overkill... But not by much for an idea this goddamn rediculous... Also any ship firing any decent ranged ammo will EASILY reach out to the 250k grid wall/lock range...
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#9 - 2014-10-17 16:55:32 UTC
Let's make something that will irrevocably break the game. I think not. GTFO.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#10 - 2014-10-17 17:03:23 UTC
Flashrain wrote:

- Allow locking while cloaked

No.

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Sgt Soulless
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2014-10-17 17:09:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Sgt Soulless
I think OP's bonuses are a way too much, but the general idea of a "sniper" module is ok.

Perhaps a passive low slot damage upgrade (BCS, heatsink, etc.) but with a higher damage boost in exchange for penalties to mobility and fire rate. The idea being to give a lower DPS boost than an normal damage boost mod, but higher damage per volley. And also no lock while cloaked, that's just silly.
Iain Cariaba
#12 - 2014-10-17 17:19:07 UTC
I support this.

Seriously, I want to put this on 50 nados and alpha supers off the field from outside the ability of anyone to do anything about it.

/sarcasm
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#13 - 2014-10-17 17:32:08 UTC
1. Overuse of the word "massively"
2. Ability to turn Ships into covert ops style cloakers
3. Ability to lock while cloaked
4. WTF level of OP bonuses

Not supported for the above reasons, and then some.

Lrn2Rohk/Naga.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Daoden
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-10-17 17:54:43 UTC
Because ships like the eagle with essentially 100% bonus to hybrid optimal really aren't enough of a sniper boat to begin with. I already get almost 50KM optimal with antimatter rounds in it and with Spike ammo it can shoot further then I can get it to target without sacrificing speed or tank.

If you want range you have to sacrifice something to get it. Your idea gives you everything you need and while you tried to give it a downside by reducing shield and armor resist, you wont have to worry when the other guy cant even get to you unless he has the same module, in which case its a matter of who hits f1 first.
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#15 - 2014-10-17 18:13:20 UTC
Really they just need to let go of some of the hate on T2 range ammo.

Aurora/ Spike/ Tremor is worthless, especially the medium and small. the 75% tracking penalty at the medium and small ranges make it 0 hit ammo.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#16 - 2014-10-17 18:18:01 UTC
This ****post of an idea honestly must have been pulled from somewhere deep in your ***.

Give me your ****, biomass queue is over Arrow.

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Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#17 - 2014-10-17 18:18:30 UTC
Ioci wrote:
Really they just need to let go of some of the hate on T2 range ammo.

Aurora/ Spike/ Tremor is worthless, especially the medium and small. the 75% tracking penalty at the medium and small ranges make it 0 hit ammo.


Yeah they need to look into fixing those ammos, Spike isn't so bad depending on what hull your in but tremor is more garbage than what makes up the ships that fit it.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#18 - 2014-10-17 18:20:01 UTC
I would also like to point out that the op's eyes may in fact be floating loosely around her head in a rather unsettling fashion.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2014-10-17 18:37:34 UTC
Say hello to my blaster Moros and feel the pain of its 60k alpha at 180km...
Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#20 - 2014-10-17 18:38:35 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
I would also like to point out that the op's eyes may in fact be floating loosely around her head in a rather unsettling fashion.


Its a good thing you informed her!
I hear that its bad for your health in the long run if that happens
Damage to the optic nerves or something like that
i dunno i slept through that lecture.
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