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(bomber rebalance) Decloaking other cloaked ships change.

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Axloth Okiah
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2014-10-16 19:08:56 UTC
350125GO wrote:
I haven't seen fleets of cloaky ships in WH's.
Because they are cloaky, duh!
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-10-17 00:49:36 UTC
This is a GOOD change, not a bad one...

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CivilWars
Half Empty
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#23 - 2014-10-17 00:57:02 UTC
I dare say that other than when blopsing if you are taking a group of cloaky ships then you are likely doing it wrong.

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Senn Denroth
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#24 - 2014-10-17 02:24:12 UTC
This is an awesome change, can't wait for it.

Can't wait to get rid of the whole, solid matter can fly through other solid matter because you have a cloaking device. I mean, just think about it for a second.. if I put a cloaking device on my house, some other guy could plonk a house down on top of mine as long as it was cloaked. Heaven forbid what would happen if one of them uncloak. WTF were CCP thinking when they changed it in the first place? Maybe one of those: "oh this is how we intended it to function in the first place so we fixed it for you"?

I've been in w-space since it was introduced. I remember having to operate with teammates when warping cloaked ships on to blobs, getting warpins, warping at a certain range so each person wouldn't get decloaked etc, TACTICS. This brings some those tactics back to w-space that noobs wouldn't otherwise know about. I love that they're changing some of these things back. Dunno about the compass, that works in both spaces I guess so could be handy for killing ratting carriers. Can't wait for the drop probes > scan all sigs automatically module... :P

Anyway, I remember orbiting a wormhole one day at about 60km, decloaked a cheetah worth 400m and popped him. We were both cloaked. It's an awesome change coming back, it is by far favorable to the hunters in w-space and not the bears or nullblockers.
Some RandomAlt Assene
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-10-17 06:51:37 UTC
i dont see why it should affect multiboxers, default warp to distance & warp to fleet member -- mega tactics Lol
Rockstede
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2014-10-17 07:04:44 UTC
Now:

Warp in.
Drop cloak.
Launch bomb.
Warp out.

Post patch:

Warp in.
Cloak drops.
Launch bomb.
Warp out.



Really not much of a change is it?

Space is big man, a great deal of the time the likelyhood of you decloaking someone with your ship or they you with theirs is so small as to be hardly noticeable.

On the times that they do decloak you, it becomes absolutely no different than a non-cloaked ship decloaking you except now you have the advantage of surprise, neither ship knew the other was there so now (with the exception of bombers and blops, no timer after decloaking) you either fight, or use the recalibration timer to GTFO.
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-10-17 07:19:55 UTC
This is a bad change IMO. Decloaking during fleet warps or when camping a wormhole is bad for wormhole combat in general. Sure you can use old tactics to decloak someone while cloaked but this doesn't involve half as much skill or balls as getting to where you think someone is and intentionally dropping cloak.
Lister Vindaloo
5 Tons of Flax
#28 - 2014-10-17 21:43:13 UTC
We flew cloaked with this mechanic before, it'll take adjustment but it's not as bad as it seems. The bomber "balances" however really affect the way they are flown I doubt I'll be able to keep up with a frig gang anymore, I don't want HP I'm happy being made of paper but bombing is now going to be a lot harder especially considering any decent fleet will have smart bombs and/or instacanes, the instacanes work already as a counter btw. Not to mention I've gone from flying slightly clunky frigate to basically having a beer keg with a cloaking device, so I lose more dps replacing bcs with nanos just so I can survive long enough to apply my dps.
Wow fozzie you must a spent at least 43 seconds coming up with this and all because you won't discuss ISBoxer even though it is clearly the issue.....
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