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Cold Fusion, again...
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Tikitina
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-10-10 07:22:22 UTC
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/191754-cold-fusion-reactor-verified-by-third-party-researchers-seems-to-have-1-million-times-the-energy-density-of-gasoline

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...has been verified by third-party researchers, according to a new 54-page report. The researchers observed a small E-Cat over 32 days, where it produced net energy of 1.5 megawatt-hours...


Interesting...
Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#2 - 2014-10-10 07:40:30 UTC
I really hope that's legitimate because if it is it would have an enormous impact.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#3 - 2014-10-10 08:31:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
When I hear about cold fusion, I always think about ice in a drink.

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Cynter DeVries
Spheroidal Projections
#4 - 2014-10-12 00:21:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Cynter DeVries
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/11/29/why-im-certain-that-the-rossi-e-cat-doesnt-work-as-advertised/
also
http://www.science20.com/a_quantum_diaries_survivor/cold_fusion_a_better_study_on_the_infamous_ecat-146700
The study still left opportunity for sleight of hand on the part of the inventor.

So, crap. I want to believe we can build Asimov's microfusion devices... But things aren't looking good for this one.

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stoicfaux
#5 - 2014-10-13 17:04:10 UTC
Slashdot commenters are also poking holes in the testing: http://tech-beta.slashdot.org/story/14/10/12/232230/independent-researchers-test-rossis-alleged-cold-fusion-device-for-32-days

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jason hill
Red vs Blue Flight Academy
#6 - 2014-10-13 18:54:35 UTC  |  Edited by: jason hill
even if its true and it appears to be speculative ....big oil will find a way of smothering it .....as will the other energy companies ...its a lose lose all round

similar to fracking here in the uk ....theres no impirical evidence to actually suggest that fracking actualy causes mini earthquakes but public opinion to the areas that are likely to be affected are swayed by the tree huggers that just don't understand that we actually do need alternatives to what we currently have ...yet they are obsessed with wind farms and the likes that are really inefficient .

just like nuclear ...currently the cleanest most environmentley friendly way of producing energy and they even admit it ...but they are still against it !.

I just cant get me bloody head round this energy bollox


I really fkn hate tree huggers Evil


and having just read the Slashdot post they still arnt disproving it ...they are just saying they cant explain it ... and ffs ...if you had found the motherload would you do the tim berners lee and give it away for free like he did with the world wide web ?.... cos I can assure you that I would the fuk not ! ... so I cant blame him for keeping his cards close to his chest in that regard ...I don't wanna work for the rest of my miserable bloody life when im potentially sitting on a gold mine ...would you ?

as long as he doesn't take the **** out of this discovery and that everyone in the world benefits then I don't see the problem with him getting the financial recognition and justly so ... but if it is a hoax then its just a case of burn the witch !
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#7 - 2014-10-13 20:34:21 UTC
They don't want to call if fusion because the known principles behind fusion go against it.
The process produces energy but the process doesn't necessarily need to be an actual fusion, it could be something else entirely even if it might even get to be called a cold fusion in the future if the science proves to be sound in the process.
jason hill
Red vs Blue Flight Academy
#8 - 2014-10-13 22:42:03 UTC
Baneken wrote:
They don't want to call if fusion because the known principles behind fusion go against it.
The process produces energy but the process doesn't necessarily need to be an actual fusion, it could be something else entirely even if it might even get to be called a cold fusion in the future if the science proves to be sound in the process.




does it matter if its fusion or not ?.... who gives a flying fanny ?... does it work ?.... does it do the job ? is it efficient ?.... as far as im concerned it could be called unobtainium as far as im concerned .. I don't care as long as it works and its efficient I care not one jot .

Cynter DeVries
Spheroidal Projections
#9 - 2014-10-13 22:42:41 UTC
Baneken wrote:
They don't want to call if fusion because the known principles behind fusion go against it.
The process produces energy but the process doesn't necessarily need to be an actual fusion, it could be something else entirely even if it might even get to be called a cold fusion in the future if the science proves to be sound in the process.

Except that the "tests" were so poorly designed, everything being set up by Rossi himself, that they couldn't even verify that he wasn't supplying additional power through the "ground".

Worse, they didn't even set up a simple bomb calorimeter that would have told them exactly how much heat it was producing. Instead they invented some contrived IR detector calibrated against a half-power non-fueled run (i.e. not calibrated at all).

The single worst problem with the whole set of tests is that Rossi was the one to exchange "fuel" cartridges, so the "spent" ones he gave them to analyze he handled first.

All of these are mentioned in the links I posted above, as well as stoicfaux' slashdot link.

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Cynter DeVries
Spheroidal Projections
#10 - 2014-10-13 22:43:55 UTC
jason hill wrote:
Baneken wrote:
They don't want to call if fusion because the known principles behind fusion go against it.
The process produces energy but the process doesn't necessarily need to be an actual fusion, it could be something else entirely even if it might even get to be called a cold fusion in the future if the science proves to be sound in the process.




does it matter if its fusion or not ?.... who gives a flying ***** ?... does it work ?.... does it do the job ? is it efficient ?.... as far as im concerned it could be called unobtainium as far as im concerned .. I don't care as long as it works and its efficient I care not one jot .


If it worked, he wouldn't need funding. He could hook it up to the grid and let the cash roll in.

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Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-10-15 00:52:27 UTC
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#12 - 2014-10-16 00:33:17 UTC
I honestly though of Keanu when opening this thread ... Ugh

I am disappoint

Here, have some Keanu love

o/

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Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#13 - 2014-10-16 00:51:01 UTC
On the topic of "Fusion Power"

Too good to be true?

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Cynter DeVries
Spheroidal Projections
#14 - 2014-10-16 20:28:40 UTC
Commissar Kate wrote:
On the topic of "Fusion Power"

Too good to be true?

That'd be the real deal. Hot fusion with radioactive waste products. It might fit on the back of a pick-up, but you probably wouldn't want to put one there.

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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#15 - 2014-10-16 20:41:15 UTC
Commissar Kate wrote:
On the topic of "Fusion Power"

Too good to be true?


Hey, I opened a thread on that! Sad
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#16 - 2014-10-16 21:16:26 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Commissar Kate wrote:
On the topic of "Fusion Power"

Too good to be true?


Hey, I opened a thread on that! Sad


Yeah I saw that this morning.

-k8

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