These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Do I understand this correctly?
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Flakey Foont
#341 - 2011-12-13 16:16:44 UTC
Go do something else. I suspect the villain does not have a long attention span...
Barakkus
#342 - 2011-12-13 16:18:19 UTC
Vernn wrote:

I'm still out roughly 20 million and by your plan 20 hours of game time. Even if I did kill him he would be out what? A kestrel?

Who's getting the short end of that deal?


How is he killing you in a kestrel before concord shows up?
PUT TANK ON YOUR SHIP MAN.

But in all seriousness where is this system? lol
I want some free kms of this guy lolol

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Prince Kobol
#343 - 2011-12-13 16:19:23 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Tenris Anis wrote:
Care to explain how you survive a 33k alpha in a hulk?
By having more than 33k EHP.


Any chance you can post a fit that will give a hulk 33k EHP...

The best I can get is 27K EHP.. unless of course I don't fit 3 strip miners but then why bother using a hulk Big smile
Tenris Anis
Schattenengel Clan
#344 - 2011-12-13 16:27:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Tenris Anis
Prince Kobol wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Tenris Anis wrote:
Care to explain how you survive a 33k alpha in a hulk?
By having more than 33k EHP.


Any chance you can post a fit that will give a hulk 33k EHP...

The best I can get is 27K EHP.. unless of course I don't fit 3 strip miners but then why bother using a hulk Big smile


Maybe apocs with t2 miners would work in this case better, I bet you get way more EHP out of them and way more mining yield than a hulk without strip miners. And furthermore it is way more old school!

Remove insurance.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#345 - 2011-12-13 16:35:03 UTC
It's pretty trivial to get a 35k+ tank on a hulk if you're willing to use T1 strip miners.
Prince Kobol
#346 - 2011-12-13 16:38:28 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
It's pretty trivial to get a 35k+ tank on a hulk if you're willing to use T1 strip miners.


Again.. any chance you can post a fit :)
Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#347 - 2011-12-13 16:44:19 UTC
M5 Tuttle wrote:
Vernn wrote:


More insults. Nice. Excellent way to make a counter argument.


1) Be unable to cope with game mechanics.
2) Go on forums and complain.
3) Everyone explains how you could just play a little differently (mine elsewhere, set a trap for gankers, fight back, find another source of income until hulkageddon is over)
4) Refuse to change your position, ignore their advice and explanations, say the same thing over and over again.
5) Eventually they get pissed off at your intransigence and start calling you names.
6) Now you congratulate them on losing the debate because they resorted to name calling.
7) ???
8) Profit.


8 Steps is to complicated for the OP to understand.
Dr Karsun
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club
#348 - 2011-12-13 16:57:36 UTC
Move to 0.0, mine ice there... No suicide gankers, once in a few hours you got to take a 15 minute break because some random gang of losers is looking for a fat kid who can't run to beat up.

Preferably join one of the big powerblocks, who will worship you for wanting to mine ice for them at all. Not only they'll pay you a good price, they'll also thank you and kiss your hand for delivering it the 2-3j because for most alliances it's too hard to move a freighter that far in 0.0, in fear of fleets of enemies.

Your best bet to mine in peace is prolly the shadow of death - join one of those corps. Ther's so much space and so little population that running into an enemy is less likely than in a WH.

"Have you had your morning coffee?" -> the Coffee Lovers Brewing Club is recruiting! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=363976#post363976
Sakurako Kimino
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#349 - 2011-12-13 17:04:18 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Vernn wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
funny, my retriever survived the mock encounter with a Kestrel...


Ok go mine some blue ice and report back.

I should report you for encouraging people to do something illegal.


i love how gsf has truned more into bob over the years it's great.
they are now will to go so much past bob that they demaned that you only play by their rules.

to the op sorry your getting ganked but it is part of eve




eve is about sin

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#350 - 2011-12-13 17:04:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Prince Kobol wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
It's pretty trivial to get a 35k+ tank on a hulk if you're willing to use T1 strip miners.


Again.. any chance you can post a fit :)


[Hulk]
Damage Control II
Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System

Caldari Navy Medium Shield Extender
Estamel's Modified Heat Dissipation Field
Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Medium Shield Extender

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defence Field Extender II
Medium Core Defence Field Extender II

42k ehp vs EMP ...Its doable.. altho if you fit it like this expect to be droped by 8 tornadoes just the same. actually four are sufficient enough..

Big smileBig smileBig smile

note require PG8 and all V
Tenris Anis
Schattenengel Clan
#351 - 2011-12-13 17:05:28 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
It's pretty trivial to get a 35k+ tank on a hulk if you're willing to use T1 strip miners.


Pants down, post fitting.
t1 strips use whooping 6 pg less than t2.

Anyway I raise to 38k alpha with 3 tornadoes if you raise to 35k+ tank on your hulk.

Remove insurance.
Prince Kobol
#352 - 2011-12-13 17:05:58 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
It's pretty trivial to get a 35k+ tank on a hulk if you're willing to use T1 strip miners.


Again.. any chance you can post a fit :)


[Hulk]
Damage Control II
Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System

Caldari Navy Medium Shield Extender
Estamel's Modified Heat Dissipation Field
Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Medium Shield Extender

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defence Field Extender II
Medium Core Defence Field Extender II

42k ehp vs EMP ...Its doable.. altho if you fit it like this expect to be droped by 8 tornadoes just the same.

Big smileBig smileBig smile

note require PG8 and all V



Cool.. a hulk with no strip miners lol
Myrdraeus Keaunt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#353 - 2011-12-13 17:06:28 UTC
Vernn wrote:


So in essence what you're saying is that in this game you are paying to get griefed anytime anywhere?


Hey! You're catching on! Good for you!
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#354 - 2011-12-13 17:08:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Prince Kobol wrote:
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
It's pretty trivial to get a 35k+ tank on a hulk if you're willing to use T1 strip miners.


Again.. any chance you can post a fit :)


[Hulk]
Damage Control II
Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System

Caldari Navy Medium Shield Extender
Estamel's Modified Heat Dissipation Field
Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Medium Shield Extender

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defence Field Extender II
Medium Core Defence Field Extender II

42k ehp vs EMP ...Its doable.. altho if you fit it like this expect to be droped by 8 tornadoes just the same.

Big smileBig smileBig smile

note require PG8 and all V



Cool.. a hulk with no strip miners lol


hey i am trying 49,5/50,07 .. there is no room for strip miners if you want tank it, and still its futile since you gonna get one shoted by 4 ships anyway Big smile price tag is somewhere around 35 bil so it shouldnt be a problem for any miner Big smile
Myrdraeus Keaunt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#355 - 2011-12-13 17:13:46 UTC
Tenris Anis wrote:

Because you pay me. Pay me and I will babysit your mining operation. I will bring even logistic support if you pay enough, no big deal. Anything with a negative security standing will be attack preemptive, just to keep your under-tanked miner safe.


My main has a +2 sec status right now. He ganks just to try and counter the status he gets from killing 0.0 rats and being able to hunt at leisure with no consequences. It's actually difficult to keep a low if you're not regularly running afoul of stupid laws and ****. Had it down to .03 but then he did some anomalies. Every time he goes to HS he tries to gank at least one miner.

Guess he'd have no problem with your blockade.
Tenris Anis
Schattenengel Clan
#356 - 2011-12-13 17:18:49 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
It's pretty trivial to get a 35k+ tank on a hulk if you're willing to use T1 strip miners.


Again.. any chance you can post a fit :)


[Hulk]
Damage Control II
Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System

Caldari Navy Medium Shield Extender
Estamel's Modified Heat Dissipation Field
Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Medium Shield Extender

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defence Field Extender II
Medium Core Defence Field Extender II

42k ehp vs EMP ...Its doable.. altho if you fit it like this expect to be droped by 8 tornadoes just the same. actually four are sufficient enough..

Big smileBig smileBig smile

note require PG8 and all V


I raise in this case to shiny imps as well, and add a single faction gyro per ship. 42k+ alpha with still just 3 tornados and t2 fitting.
Worth the risk against this hulk for sure.


Remove insurance.
Prince Kobol
#357 - 2011-12-13 17:20:54 UTC
Whilst I have no issue in general with ganking I do wish people would stop saying things like you can tank you hulk at 30k EHP +

Realistically without gimping your mining ability your probably talking a tank of approx 25k EHP.

The way I approach it is that people who are ganking miners in general will either go for the easy targets.. i.e people who fit their hulks with cargo expanded + cargo rigs + 2 mining upgrades or who faction fit their hulks.

I also use shield repping drones and whilst that might count for very little the hope I have it will encourage the single gankers to go after the guy next to me as he will offer the best chance of success.

As for the gank squads.. if you are chosen then there is nothing you can do about it expect suck it up and move on.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#358 - 2011-12-13 17:23:48 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Whilst I have no issue in general with ganking I do wish people would stop saying things like you can tank you hulk at 30k EHP +

Realistically without gimping your mining ability your probably talking a tank of approx 25k EHP.

The way I approach it is that people who are ganking miners in general will either go for the easy targets.. i.e people who fit their hulks with cargo expanded + cargo rigs + 2 mining upgrades or who faction fit their hulks.

I also use shield repping drones and whilst that might count for very little the hope I have it will encourage the single gankers to go after the guy next to me as he will offer the best chance of success.

As for the gank squads.. if you are chosen then there is nothing you can do about it expect suck it up and move on.





Indeed. Thats how it is, was and will be. Simple mechanics seems to work.

Alas obligatory
dont fly what you cant afford to lose.

Chose your values carefully as you gonna get dissapointed if you chose wrong.
Tenris Anis
Schattenengel Clan
#359 - 2011-12-13 17:27:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Tenris Anis
Myrdraeus Keaunt wrote:

Guess he'd have no problem with your blockade.


Yes, you would, because the op did mention that he got constantly attacked, not just once. Your sec status goes down real fast this way. The normal out of the blue suicide was not the issue. At least at the beginning of this topic. ;-)

And once you got protection for your mining ops the next question would anyway why mine in high sec.

Remove insurance.
Tenris Anis
Schattenengel Clan
#360 - 2011-12-13 17:31:16 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:

I also use shield repping drones and whilst that might count for very little the hope I have it will encourage the single gankers to go after the guy next to me as he will offer the best chance of success.


Shield logistic drones? You mean on your orca? I am sure you are aware that you can not target yourself.

Remove insurance.