Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Sorry for asking this but what is a Recon ship?

So far I have read about them here and some other threads but I cannot find those.. Will they be introduced at some point in the future?

as it stands devoter is the favored armor hic and broadsword is the favored shield hic, due to their slot and resistance layouts.


Giving drones only to the devoter will make the phobos completely obsolete

if you give drones to one hic, you give them to all to include both shield ships. if you're concerned about devoter dps compared to phobos dps, rebalance the weapon system accordingly. a drone bay is not strictly used for increasing your dps. Case and point: after phoebe every single devoter will carry a flight of EC-300 hornets, which that alone will make hictors more comfortable flying in small gangs or used in larger fleets.




All of none Fozzie, do not half ass this.

I hardly ever post, but everything about this idea is great. Please consider this, CCP.

Its Not fair that Devoter gets drones and the others Do Not. Dont give drones to devoter!

lol let the carebear silhouette forum alt school you "pr0s" on some points of thought

1. why cap ships are unable to jump while hit with a focused point.
CCP is assuming cap ships will be escorted. Unescorted cap ship, dead cap ship. Goodbye majority of carrier solo level 5 mission runners unless they have friends nearby, not even alts will help that much against a well organized lowsec gang. Anyone running for the gate, was either ordered to jump sacrificing their cap ship as rear guard and earning a lot of respect points or the entire corp just voted to boot a few who broke for the gate early.


2. Catch and prevent all ships from jumping, might as well allow Tengus to be 110% impossible to be caught and unscannable.
Can you say "I-Win" buttom and order a t-shirt for yourself online that says "Awesome sauce" . Yup, less people in lowsec and more gate camping leading to more people heading to high sec. Everybody, EVERYBODY, says there has to be at least one counter to something....here is a counter to a HIC. Once the target is webbed after its scramed/disrupted/bubbled/pointed (pick you favorite vernacular), it isn't really going anywhere anyway and you have about 15kms worth of time to kill it. Can't have everything, otherwise might as well remove PVP from highsec cause that's where a good portion will go to grind their isk to go back to lowsec without the hassle of station and gate camps when they want to PVP.

3. Brick tank, with guns.
You don't need high DPS, but think about the Maller Cyno bait. Ok, now imagine it with a 36 km point range when focused in lowsec. Yes, HACs and T1 can get high hitpoints/resist...but now you have a ship to stop a carrier from gating out should you come across one....while still having higherr tank that isn't huge amounts of plates and extenders while carrying cloak and probe launcher...have a corp mate fly a recon for FFS for that and you catch the target when he finds it. Might catch solo caps and kill them that way, I predict less solo level 5 carrier mission running.

4. Wormhole jumping.
Try not to fight it on a worm hole, period. They are leaving themselves an escape route. EVERYBODY knows this in their most basic, deepest thought....how to escape. Your thought should be to "How do I cut off their escape" and "Ehh, not worth the time to fight them" cause nothing says you have to fight everything you see. Give yourself a margin of error and gut instinct before you act.

All I read is old one dimensional thinking, of "This is what the HIC is used and how its fitted" instead of "Now, how can I use a HIC in a new way." HAC might be better, but lowsec is small gang combat anyway, why fly a HAC when a T1 cruiser works well...HAC has more advantages then a T1, now find the advantages of a HIC instead of being unable to "HTFU...adapt or die" cause someone will find a way to make a HIC work well.

This. Why Phobos no drone? I can live with Onyx not getting them. Tis Caldari. But Amarr gets drones and not Gallente? Makes no sense, brah.

On another note, it occurred to me that having the focused point work its anti-jump magic vs all ships would be pretty cool. But then we might see HICs Online sooner rather than later. Thoughts?

No anti-gate mechanics vs jump freighters?

So, resist bonuses move to a fixed 20% role bonus and replaced with a RoF bonus. So more dps. I'm ok with that.

Devoter got +1 turret.
I see more base tank in a couple cases. Looks legit.

+1 for changes.

The Phobos is a Rhoden Shipyards ship and they usually don't use drones and go for long range hybrid weapons. Which explains the no drones for the Phobos and the optimal range.

Duvolle Laborties are blastrr based ships with falloff bonuses and usually get drones as a supplementary weapon.

CreoDron ships are drone based with hybrid supplementary damage.

Since we have jump timers now and jump fatigue, how about instead of preventing people from jumping/docking, use similar fatigue for HICs. That means first time it doesn't affect you, but a few times later, you can't dock anymore for a few minutes.

That way you can still jump gates but you can't just re-approach gate forever without getting stuck on one side in a few jumps.

This fatigue would reset after you die, of course

My suggestion for HIC buff is to make the scripted point into a scram.

First time I used my HIC, I honestly couldn't believe that this expensive T2 cruiser with a skill intensive speciality module that also makes you immune to reps couldn't catch a T1 frigate because it doesn't warp scramble!?~!!

Could we get Infinite Points to turn off Micro Jump Drives again?