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Working out cost of researched BPOs
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Rumbaldi
Tannhauser C-Beam
Lux Collective
#1 - 2014-10-06 08:04:17 UTC
What kind of formula do people use to work out the selling price of a research BPO? I imagine it would be something like..

BPO base price + X amount of isk per level of TE + x amount of isk per level of ME.

I am just not sure what a fair price per level is.

Regards

R
Fu Qjoo
Pangalactic Frontline Supply Agency
#2 - 2014-10-06 08:17:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Fu Qjoo
Rumbaldi wrote:
What kind of formula do people use to work out the selling price of a research BPO? I imagine it would be something like..

BPO base price + X amount of isk per level of TE + x amount of isk per level of ME.

I am just not sure what a fair price per level is.

Regards

R


I think everyone does that ddifferently - for me it's roughly

(NPC_Price(BPO) + research_cost(ME) + research_cost(TE)+(research_hours(ME)+research_hours(TE))*50,000)*1,05

If its over this price I tend to research by myself rather than buy. And depending on the BPO I very often cap TE level to -18% in the formula.
Rumbaldi
Tannhauser C-Beam
Lux Collective
#3 - 2014-10-06 10:52:47 UTC
hi Fu

OK, a little different than what I thought (I know everyone does there own way), thanks for that though its useful.
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#4 - 2014-10-06 17:51:22 UTC
Each level of research takes more time than the last and costs more in NPC fees, so a flat fee per level wouldn't really work in your favour. Not to mention different BPOs also have different research times at the same levels.

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Rumbaldi
Tannhauser C-Beam
Lux Collective
#5 - 2014-10-06 17:54:21 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
Each level of research takes more time than the last and costs more in NPC fees, so a flat fee per level wouldn't really work in your favour. Not to mention different BPOs also have different research times at the same levels.


True but there is probably a sweet spot figure, even if it is X price for the 1st 5 levels and another price for the second 5.

The longer research time would just result in a more expensive BPO and rightly so as it took longer to research.
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#6 - 2014-10-06 18:17:46 UTC
Go check the different in time and ISK cost between ME 6 and ME 10 on any moderately valuable BPO, going by hours has always been the way to do it because it's universal and makes sense. There are some special cases of course, and if you think you can get more than your formula says then by all means go for it.

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Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
#7 - 2014-10-14 22:35:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Dream Five
http://www.eve-cost.eu/research

plug in your BPO, ME, TE, compute the number of days. Price at least at NPC+30m/month of research I think.

Some BPOs are dime a dozen though so make sure you are not investing in one of those (Charon, Cane for instance)
Rumbaldi
Tannhauser C-Beam
Lux Collective
#8 - 2014-10-15 12:19:15 UTC
Thanks, ill take a look.
HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-10-16 02:27:06 UTC  |  Edited by: HeXxploiT
All formulas are thrown out the window for the single reason that the system is flawed in that an infinite number of blueprints are always available at a set price. When the market for a particular blueprint is flooded with fully researched bpos the research bpo prices tends to fall back to the market value if not below that. This is especially evident with certain ships such as the noctis.
The best way to decipher a formula is to look at current contracts for a specific blueprint and decide if it's better to sell or to hang onto the BPO for a few weeks and see if the contract market thins out some.
As a trader I frequently sell researched BPO's cheaper than market as I can make more isk in the long run with money I actually have now than the little bit extra I might have if I wait 3 weeks to sell.

each BPO has movement of it's own and behaviors for all bpo's change with the winds.
Rumbaldi
Tannhauser C-Beam
Lux Collective
#10 - 2014-10-16 05:54:41 UTC
HeXxploiT wrote:
All formulas are thrown out the window for the single reason that the system is flawed in that an infinite number of blueprints are always available at a set price. When the market for a particular blueprint is flooded with fully researched bpos the research bpo prices tends to fall back to the market value if not below that. This is especially evident with certain ships such as the noctis.
The best way to decipher a formula is to look at current contracts for a specific blueprint and decide if it's better to sell or to hang onto the BPO for a few weeks and see if the contract market thins out some.
As a trader I frequently sell researched BPO's cheaper than market as I can make more isk in the long run with money I actually have now than the little bit extra I might have if I wait 3 weeks to sell.

each BPO has movement of it's own and behaviors for all bpo's change with the winds.


that makes sense actually.