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[Exploration]: Sensor suite memory
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-10-14 11:43:44 UTC
Please make the incredibly advanced sensor suite in my ship remember the anomalies I have selected to ignore as I fly around hunting sites. A simple QoL change...
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#2 - 2014-10-14 14:25:30 UTC
The last time I went out hunting anoms etc( last night) they did continually ignore the things I told it to ignore, as long as you leave your probes out and stay in the same system that is. Recall probes or leave and then return to the system and everything resets as it should be.

Depending on what you are searching for and the actual system another possible is the old fashioned paper and pencil list.
Some scan pilots I know use a spreadsheet in their i-Pad or Android tablet/phone to track these things. Granted if you have alot of signatures this is not a workable alternative.
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-10-14 14:39:11 UTC
trouble with pencil and paper is that it goes all soggy in the pod goo, hence wondering if my very expensive computer systems could take notefor me :D
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#4 - 2014-10-15 02:25:04 UTC
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
trouble with pencil and paper is that it goes all soggy in the pod goo, hence wondering if my very expensive computer systems could take notefor me :D

True that, but probably not a problem on your computer desk.

You asked for the sensor systems to remember which things you have told it to ignore. Since it already does that unless you recall and redeploy probes, or leave the system and then jump back in I am having trouble understanding exactly what you want here. Perhaps a little more through explanation of exactly what you want would help me understand.
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#5 - 2014-10-15 05:02:51 UTC
Ctrl-A, Crtl-C in scanner window -> Crtl-V in spread sheet. problem solved.

I have a spread sheet with about 40 system in it, pretty easy to manage with a second (third in my case) monitor.
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-10-15 09:09:53 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
trouble with pencil and paper is that it goes all soggy in the pod goo, hence wondering if my very expensive computer systems could take notefor me :D

True that, but probably not a problem on your computer desk.

You asked for the sensor systems to remember which things you have told it to ignore. Since it already does that unless you recall and redeploy probes, or leave the system and then jump back in I am having trouble understanding exactly what you want here. Perhaps a little more through explanation of exactly what you want would help me understand.


Probably I wasn't quite clear, as an explorer I run through systems and check side systems on the way for combat anomalies. Ignore works fine whilst in system but jump next door and then back in and lo and behold the super smart computer has forgotten the sigs I'd previously ignored. Irritating when you know a new one has popped up and can't remember which is the new system...time to scan down all of them again...

It's basically a simple quality of life change, as mentioned a spreadsheet or pencil and paper would work but really? I need to use a notepad *just* to remember which transient sigs I want to ignore when I've already told the computer once to ignore them? Not a major thing certainly but also it would be nice not to have to resort to manual methods for something so simple.
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#7 - 2014-10-15 10:41:08 UTC
Now, where do we story this information? Is it local or remote?
Do we flag ignore by one, two, three or more traits?
Do these traits have to be perfect, like some invisible ID# that doesn't overlap any other ?(as I have seen neighboring systems with the same anom ID # before)
How long to hold ignore settings for?
Database call for this flag before or after the initial scan, before or after each probe scan, etc?

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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-10-15 10:46:03 UTC
James Baboli wrote:
Now, where do we story this information? Is it local or remote?
Do we flag ignore by one, two, three or more traits?
Do these traits have to be perfect, like some invisible ID# that doesn't overlap any other ?(as I have seen neighboring systems with the same anom ID # before)
How long to hold ignore settings for?
Database call for this flag before or after the initial scan, before or after each probe scan, etc?


techincally I'd store it locally but didn't realise that there were duplicate sig values across systems, however that just means storing the system id along with the sig id. The ignoe settings should only be held in the current session i.e. wiped out at restart of client. The ignore settings would be checked from local storage when the sig list is built and drawn into the probe scan window.
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#9 - 2014-10-15 14:07:00 UTC
Since the sites you want to save have already been scanned the best answer is to save them as bookmarks. That way when you jump back into the system no re-scanning is needed you simply warp to what you want.

If you do not want to bother with the book mark hassles then the simple piece of paper and a pencil on your desk is the best answer after all we are not talking about having to record more than a few ID's per system.
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-10-15 14:16:44 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
Since the sites you want to save have already been scanned the best answer is to save them as bookmarks. That way when you jump back into the system no re-scanning is needed you simply warp to what you want.

If you do not want to bother with the book mark hassles then the simple piece of paper and a pencil on your desk is the best answer after all we are not talking about having to record more than a few ID's per system.


That's my current method if I can be bothered, it just seemed to be a nice easy small QoL change to make.
Iain Cariaba
#11 - 2014-10-15 21:36:58 UTC
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
Donnachadh wrote:
Since the sites you want to save have already been scanned the best answer is to save them as bookmarks. That way when you jump back into the system no re-scanning is needed you simply warp to what you want.

If you do not want to bother with the book mark hassles then the simple piece of paper and a pencil on your desk is the best answer after all we are not talking about having to record more than a few ID's per system.


That's my current method if I can be bothered, it just seemed to be a nice easy small QoL change to make.

This idea falls under the category of "code me something cause I'm lazy." It is already absurdedly simple to track all this yourself with 8 keystrokes, depending on alt-tab usage.

1. Click in probe scanner window.
2. Press ctrl-a
3. Press ctrl-c
4. Alt-tab to spreadsheet
5. Press ctrl-v

If you want to get fancy, you can label each set of signatures, but that would up the keystroke count to do this up to 12, which is just way too much effort, aparently.
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-10-15 21:47:13 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
Donnachadh wrote:
Since the sites you want to save have already been scanned the best answer is to save them as bookmarks. That way when you jump back into the system no re-scanning is needed you simply warp to what you want.

If you do not want to bother with the book mark hassles then the simple piece of paper and a pencil on your desk is the best answer after all we are not talking about having to record more than a few ID's per system.


That's my current method if I can be bothered, it just seemed to be a nice easy small QoL change to make.

This idea falls under the category of "code me something cause I'm lazy." It is already absurdedly simple to track all this yourself with 8 keystrokes, depending on alt-tab usage.

1. Click in probe scanner window.
2. Press ctrl-a
3. Press ctrl-c
4. Alt-tab to spreadsheet
5. Press ctrl-v

If you want to get fancy, you can label each set of signatures, but that would up the keystroke count to do this up to 12, which is just way too much effort, aparently.


I believe I did already say it was a *simple* QoL change...it's not hard to track but would be nice to have. And yes I'd like code to o this for me, that's the point of code - make repetitive tasks automatic...
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#13 - 2014-10-15 23:16:54 UTC
I hear you and I think it is not that simple.

Whenever you enter a system our new fancy onboard scanner thingy scans for signatures in that system and you may have some cosmic signatures that need to be scanned down.

Now sometimes those are wormholes entries or special DED sites or relic sites. You cherrypick what you like and tell your overlay to ignore the rest.
All good and well.

Now you travel along a few systems and do the same and three jumps later one of the 'ignored' signatures goes away by whatever, like site has been run or wh-entry collapsed.

You are currently three jumps away from that signature.

Since everytime you enter another system the information of the last system is 'dumped' to not cause memory leaks, how would your onboard scanner 'know' if or when a site or signature of any kind 'disappears'?

As sad as it sounds, the only options are to bookmark what you like or copy-paste them into the notepad we all have that keeps information you write down as server side kept information.

I can assure you that every note you write will be kept even if you run the client on different hardware.

The notepad is where I keep the names of meta modules for my Falcon or the ratings of DED sites.

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