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CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

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Azahni Vah'nos
Vah'nos Family
#1341 - 2011-12-13 15:26:38 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
WisdomLikeSilence wrote:
THe next big thing for CCP is the integration of DUST which should be fun. After that, lets talk incarna for real.

DUST will be an abortion at launch, mainly because it's for consoles. If it's ever released.

I'm giving Dust514 about 6-7 months of moderate success on the PS3 then it will start to decline. I don't believe it will see any true success until it is on the PC where it will grow in a similar fashion to how EVE has over the years.

Nex (Cash Shop) / Aurum - removing sand from the sandbox since Incarna. Currently the only use for aurum is to buy virtual items in the in-game store, but Cockerill expects to expand its uses in the future.

Beaches
Doomheim
#1342 - 2011-12-13 15:31:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Beaches
Kye Do'lan wrote:
Pile of crap and distracts from gameplay



Lol

Which is it? A pile of crap or something which distracts from clicking in space? If it was a pile of crap it shouldn't keep your attention, well maybe you. But I think Incarna as it is now is pretty horrid, but I don't think doing laps around the CQ is anything other than alternative ship spinning. Ambulation would provide an attractive alternative to both, a microcosm of the player driven economy and things to do like a corp HQ little games, boosters, smuggling ect...

CCP in their infinite wisdom gave us NeX and a prison cell instead, it is pretty ****, yeah. And they put clothes in the NeX store rather than anything we could use to make our cells better. Just a normal part of life, dealing with disappointment and stupidity.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1343 - 2011-12-13 15:33:52 UTC
Azahni Vah'nos wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
WisdomLikeSilence wrote:
THe next big thing for CCP is the integration of DUST which should be fun. After that, lets talk incarna for real.

DUST will be an abortion at launch, mainly because it's for consoles. If it's ever released.

I'm giving Dust514 about 6-7 months of moderate success on the PS3 then it will start to decline. I don't believe it will see any true success until it is on the PC where it will grow in a similar fashion to how EVE has over the years.



I too want possess such powers. It will come particularly handy at stock-markets and other revenue building activities.
Freezehunter
#1344 - 2011-12-13 15:38:54 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
WisdomLikeSilence wrote:
THe next big thing for CCP is the integration of DUST which should be fun. After that, lets talk incarna for real.

DUST will be an abortion at launch, mainly because it's for consoles. If it's ever released.


I agree 100%

Making Dust for consoles only (and PS3, the least sold one, nonetheless), was the step that killed Dust before it was born, they should just scrap it now before they waste even more time and money with it...

Here's why:

1) Eve Online is played on COMPUTERS, and console gamers are not hardcore enough to give a **** about Eve universe in the first place, they are CASUALS, the kind of people that play on their console only when they are bored and have nothing else to do.

2) Console gamers ALL have ADHD, meaning that they will forget all about Dust the moment the next COD game is launched. The only FPS game that console gamers give a **** about is Call of duty and Halo and Dust is no Call of Duty OR Halo, it is a new franchise, and it has NO chance against COD.

Hell, even BF 3 didn't have a chance against it, and the BF series has a HUGE history and fan base.

3) Console gamers won't fall for your microtransaction bullshit in Dust, Valve tried that with TF 2, and failed miserably, it ONLY worked on the PC.

4) I am a hardcore gamer, I play ANYTHING that launches, be it MMO, RTS, FPS, Simulator, TPS, ANYTHING, you name it, i play it, and my rig is worth thousands of dollars.

The only problem is I ONLY use computers, and I would never touch a console or a MAC with a 50 kilometer pole.

I really wanted to play Dust 514, because I am a HUGE Eve fan, but I just can't bring myself to buy a freakin' CONSOLE just to play it and show you guys my support.

You abandoned me and forgot who made you what you are (PC gamers), I (we) will abandon you.

Dust 514 is already dead, stop development before you lose MORE money and have to fire even more people.

Sometimes I wonder if Hellmar even knows what the **** this industry is all about, and how everything in it works, outside of Eve, it's as if he never touched any other games but Eve in his entire life...
I honestly can't explain how he can make all these idiotic decisions for this company, dragging it into the shitter with every mistake he makes, like making Dust PS 3 only...

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.
Taiwanistan
#1345 - 2011-12-13 15:47:22 UTC
never say never good sir
might have a shittty pc-port coming our way after it fails on ps3

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
Freezehunter
#1346 - 2011-12-13 15:48:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Freezehunter
Taiwanistan wrote:
never say never good sir
might have a shittty pc-port coming our way after it fails on ps3


So true, man...

Don't get me started on console ports, 'cause when I get started it takes a titan to stop me, especially when it comes to consoles and how they are ******* single handedly destroying gaming, along with the type of easily entertainable, complacent, DLC-supporting *gamer* they create and encourage (AKA Non gamers that don't really know anything or give a **** about gaming outside their COD or other milked franchises) .

Consoles are the Justin Bieber of gaming, they appeal to millions of idiots with no taste (in gaming), and they are mainstream as all hell.

I should be a politician, people tell me I have the personality for it...

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#1347 - 2011-12-13 16:47:48 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Well, after reading Vile Rat's comments on the CSM meeting, I wouldn't count on WiS for a long while. Incarna (aka "Jesus") has become the abandoned broken feature of choice which nobody is gonna fix for years while CCP devotes to fixing nullsec and finish the ongoing shiny (V3).

And this is why nobody CCP is commenting on this hread.




The Csm is focused on 0.0 anything else does n,t matter for them ,so for WIs and anything else outside 0.0 the csm is useless
i bet even FW ,a lot of people complain about ,is being put on ice ,for the greedy csm



R.S.I2014
bornaa
GRiD.
#1348 - 2011-12-13 23:13:29 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Well, after reading Vile Rat's comments on the CSM meeting, I wouldn't count on WiS for a long while. Incarna (aka "Jesus") has become the abandoned broken feature of choice which nobody is gonna fix for years while CCP devotes to fixing nullsec and finish the ongoing shiny (V3).

And this is why nobody CCP is commenting on this hread.




The Csm is focused on 0.0 anything else does n,t matter for them ,so for WIs and anything else outside 0.0 the csm is useless
i bet even FW ,a lot of people complain about ,is being put on ice ,for the greedy csm





Signing that.
All CSM members only look after they own ass.
[Yes, I'm an Amateur](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRa-69uBmIw&feature=relmfu)
Psychophantic
#1349 - 2011-12-13 23:37:28 UTC
bornaa wrote:

Signing that.
All CSM members only look after they own ass.


CSM, elected to represent the community to CCP, instead have publicly admitted they only represent their constituents to CCP.

Quote:
All Representatives

Attend meetings called by the Chair or Vice-Chair
Assist the Secretary and Vice-Secretary with managerial tasks
Engage the populace on all issue debates and discussions
Represent the public views on issues to the CCP Council


Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#1350 - 2011-12-14 00:20:00 UTC
Taiwanistan wrote:
never say never good sir
might have a shittty pc-port coming our way after it fails on ps3

A ****** PC port would be just as bad as getting a blowjob from a puss-filled, disease-riddled whore. It's still a blowjob, but I'd rather abstain or use palmela handerson.

bornaa wrote:
Signing that.
All CSM members only look after they own ass.

Implying eve players are slim enough to actually find their own ass.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
#1351 - 2011-12-14 00:47:27 UTC
I don't want to walk on stations.

There are enough MMOs where you can run around with your Avatar. If I want to do it, I play one of these.

Eve is "flying in space with cool ships" and not "walk around with ugly Avatars".

Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship!
Flamespar
WarRavens
#1352 - 2011-12-14 01:06:12 UTC
Jojo Jackson wrote:
I don't want to walk on stations.

There are enough MMOs where you can run around with your Avatar. If I want to do it, I play one of these.

Eve is "flying in space with cool ships" and not "walk around with ugly Avatars".


Then don't.

EVE at it's best is about choices. And giving players lots of ways to interact with the EVE universe. People who want walking in stations are wanting to deepen their experience of the game world and see it from another angle.

EVE at it's worst is about a small group of players (including CCP and CSM) thinking they can dictate peoples experience.
Hikaru Kuroda
Extheria
#1353 - 2011-12-14 01:20:31 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
EVE at it's best is about choices. And giving players lots of ways to interact with the EVE universe. People who want walking in stations are wanting to deepen their experience of the game world and see it from another angle.

EVE at it's worst is about a small group of players (including CCP and CSM) thinking they can dictate peoples experience.


Man, so true...

This should be sticked below the login MOTD, just to remind some players what kind of game they're playing.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#1354 - 2011-12-14 01:37:16 UTC
Jojo Jackson wrote:
I don't want to walk on stations.

There are enough MMOs where you can run around with your Avatar. If I want to do it, I play one of these.

Eve is "flying in space with cool ships" and not "walk around with ugly Avatars".

There's a reason why CCP reverted from having CQ (or as I call it, the door) the default environment when you dock, to letting you choose between spinning your ship, or walking around in your captain's quarter so you can watch porn on the ingame TV.

This line of thought shouldn't be rocket science.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Joshua Aivoras
Tech IV Industries
#1355 - 2011-12-14 01:38:23 UTC
Not to slightly derail this thread, but..............

For the last time.


CCP went to Sony AND Microsoft with their game (Dust) and explained to them what Dust was planned to be and what they wanted to do with it (network it with EVE).

Microsoft were the ones that said it couldn't/wouldn't work on the 360, some networking issue or something they don't allow.



Please stop raging at CCP for this, it was Microsoft that made it PS3 exclusive.

95% of the players are loving EVE, the other 5%? On the forums.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#1356 - 2011-12-14 01:38:28 UTC
ahahaha porn is seriously a banned word? what about pornography? erotica? erotic moving pictures?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Forum Fighter
Doomheim
#1357 - 2011-12-14 01:43:10 UTC
The current CSM Chairman does not like WiS and is determined to remake the game according to his desires, therefore- WiS is on the back burner untill you guys vote in the next CSM election and get that bum outta there.

Bearer of the 1600mm Tinfoil Hat™
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#1358 - 2011-12-14 01:49:31 UTC
Joshua Aivoras wrote:
Please stop raging at CCP for this, it was Microsoft that made it PS3 exclusive.

Fucks given: 0

It's CCP that got the brilliant idea to make a competitive console FPS, in a market which is already filled to overflowing with FPSes, with subpar controls, and expecting it to not suck dilz through a straw. If they'd said they wanted to make it for the PC, I'd actually want to play it. As it is, given how much I absolutely loathe any and all FPSes on consoles, especially competitive multiplayer FPSes, it'll be a cold day in hell before I even consider looking at DUST.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#1359 - 2011-12-14 01:54:24 UTC
Forum Fighter wrote:
The current CSM Chairman does not like WiS and is determined to remake the game according to his desires, therefore- WiS is on the back burner untill you guys vote in the next CSM election and get that bum outta there.

The chairman who was very positive to WiS prior to the asstastic launch that was The Door?

Gee. I wonder how that change could possibly have happened.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Psychophantic
#1360 - 2011-12-14 02:17:27 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:

Gee. I wonder how that change could possibly have happened.


Exposure through gaming press to feed ego?