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Tengus overpowered?

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#41 - 2014-10-15 00:59:48 UTC
I don't know exactly how this turned into "nerf logi", but seriously, nerf logi. And this is coming from someone who has Logistics trained to five.

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One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Solj RichPopolous
F I G H T C L U B
H A R D L I N E R S
#42 - 2014-10-15 01:18:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Solj RichPopolous
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I don't know exactly how this turned into "nerf logi", but seriously, nerf logi. And this is coming from someone who has Logistics trained to five.


Yes nerf logi. I've seen alot of good ideas floating around about it. But I think this in general would require a massive intelligence hike on EVE players which is always a good thing, since logi is the equivalent to playing the game with cheat codes at this point espec with the way some people abuse it. (5+ alts all dedicated to logi - ing their ******** armor brick ship)

I think sig based repping would be a good fix. If you want your ship to receive more reps it needs the appropriate sig. This would make using the proper sized repper worthwhile to get maximum amount of reps if a limit on reps is imposed. This makes ships actually able to be broken and gets rid of the scenario where its futile to even try engaging an enemy because they have more logi than you have combat ships.

Or you could have the penalty of receiving reps increasing the sig of the ship.

And there also needs to be a limit of how many reps a single ship can receive.
Bullet Therapist
FT Cold Corporation
#43 - 2014-10-15 01:23:37 UTC
I agree that things will slow down quite a bit. I'm waiting to see what, if any, changes are applied to stealth bombers as well and what changes they bring to large scale pvp.
Paul Tsukaya
Doomheim
#44 - 2014-10-15 03:14:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Tsukaya
Tabyll Altol wrote:
Every Ship will alpha you when you got the right mass of players. It´s not a question of the ship type its a question of the amount of players. And why is it op when 200 players shoot at you and you die, its okay because there are 199 player more than you.

-1 vote 4 close

The difference is a 300k ehp strategic cruiser is way harder to alpha than a 200k ehp battleship.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#45 - 2014-10-15 04:05:38 UTC
Paul Tsukaya wrote:
This is kind of ridiculous: evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4628&b=6197490&e=1680&t=bfbberf

The only real counter to tengus in blob warfare (as in can take them with even numbers) is more tengus. Their tank is completely silly.


Sooo...the side with fewer tengus held the field and did it in part by using damps on the tengus....they also won the isk war and got an R64.

But somehow a tengu fleet is beaten only by a bigger tengu fleet....

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Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#46 - 2014-10-15 04:46:54 UTC
Op must never PvP, out of all our t3 kills, tengus are killed about 78% of the time more then the other factions.

MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#47 - 2014-10-15 07:13:12 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Paul Tsukaya wrote:
This is kind of ridiculous: evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4628&b=6197490&e=1680&t=bfbberf

The only real counter to tengus in blob warfare (as in can take them with even numbers) is more tengus. Their tank is completely silly.


Sooo...the side with fewer tengus held the field and did it in part by using damps on the tengus....they also won the isk war and got an R64.

But somehow a tengu fleet is beaten only by a bigger tengu fleet....



damps are for AT use only.......they don't work anywhere else in eve (or some seem to think so).



Looking like medium hybrids used....guess ccp will just have to nerf them like HML to solve this. Meta changed, unloved guns (and the sub to run them) became loved.....it ofc has to be nerfed to the ground.
Odithia
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2014-10-15 08:51:03 UTC
Seems beam legion can get pretty similar performances than rail tengu for fleet uses.
Nerf T3 EHP, not just Tengu.
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#49 - 2014-10-15 13:55:10 UTC
Problem is whether tengus, logi and so on your looking at the symptoms not the problem go mad nerfing or "balancing" and all you do is shift where the problem manifests itself and make the game that little bit more mundane each time you do.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#50 - 2014-10-15 22:12:48 UTC
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Tengus gonna tengu.

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