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Ingame Browser getting updated.

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Psyrelle
Perimeter Provisions
#1 - 2014-10-14 11:38:04 UTC
Just had some not so fun experiences with the ingame browser causing it to crash whenever trying to use google docs.

Back and forth talk with GM's Gave me the info that the browser is not getting updated unless more people has an interest in it.

Therefore my idea is to get as many people on here interested in getting our awesome browser updated.

Here is some stuff I would love to work in the ingame browser.

Flash
Java
Google Docs (yay for accessing ones spreadsheets ingame instead of having to alt tab back and forth.

Anything else any of you guys would love to get implemented into the ingame browser?
Any of you want the browser to stay updated?

Just my thoughts.
Psyrelle.
Ix Method
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-10-14 16:16:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Ix Method
God yes, even if its just messing around with Chrome a bit and shoving it in. Would is really take so much effort to maintain after the initial push?

Eve has an awesome community of third party developers, you wonder just what could be achieved with the modern internets in-game.

Travelling at the speed of love.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#3 - 2014-10-14 16:37:35 UTC
Flash will not - and should not - ever be enabled in the IGB. It's a horrible security hazard and it needs to be purged from the internet with fire. What the IGB needs is proper and up-to-date HTML5 support.
Burneddi
Avanto
Hole Control
#4 - 2014-10-14 17:13:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Burneddi
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
Flash will not - and should not - ever be enabled in the IGB. It's a horrible security hazard and it needs to be purged from the internet with fire.

The same goes for Java. Heck, even Javascript should probably have a whitelist system, like NoScript in Firefox (which, by the way, is an addon you should use if you're not using it yet).
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-10-14 17:22:09 UTC
Ix Method wrote:
God yes, even if its just messing around with Chrome a bit and shoving it in. Would is really take so much effort to maintain after the initial push?

Eve has an awesome community of third party developers, you wonder just what could be achieved with the modern internets in-game.


For all the odd stuff we know about EVE by now, the browser could be based on the lost code of the billboards or or core UI function.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#6 - 2014-10-14 23:36:10 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Ix Method wrote:
God yes, even if its just messing around with Chrome a bit and shoving it in. Would is really take so much effort to maintain after the initial push?

Eve has an awesome community of third party developers, you wonder just what could be achieved with the modern internets in-game.


For all the odd stuff we know about EVE by now, the browser could be based on the lost code of the billboards or or core UI function.


The browser uses Awesomium, which is a variant of Chromium and -was- open-source but no longer is. A new, updated version will require licensing fees and will almost certainly be expensive given that it would be licensed for an MMO (meaning lots and lots of distributed copies).
Discomanco
We pooped on your lawn
#7 - 2014-10-14 23:37:31 UTC
Didn't they talk about removing the IGB as a whole during fanfest?
Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-10-15 00:20:07 UTC
+1 OP

Discomanco wrote:
Didn't they talk about removing the IGB as a whole during fanfest?



I hadn't heard that but it wouldn't surprise me at all if they gave it the Jukebox treatment rather than bothering to fix it.
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#9 - 2014-10-15 01:26:25 UTC
Screw updating the IGB. There's no way CCP will be able to keep up with normal browsers so why try? Instead they should focus on getting CREST up and running so that you can track in game stuff via API's in out of game browsers!

Blue-Fire Best Fire
Psyrelle
Perimeter Provisions
#10 - 2014-10-15 07:56:32 UTC
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
Screw updating the IGB. There's no way CCP will be able to keep up with normal browsers so why try? Instead they should focus on getting CREST up and running so that you can track in game stuff via API's in out of game browsers!


They Don't need it to keep up with browsers just not be so horrible outdated that it does not work on many homepages.

html5 support would be awesome.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#11 - 2014-10-15 08:09:19 UTC
Sal Landry wrote:
+1 OP

Discomanco wrote:
Didn't they talk about removing the IGB as a whole during fanfest?



I hadn't heard that but it wouldn't surprise me at all if they gave it the Jukebox treatment rather than bothering to fix it.


I leave that here.

UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-10-15 08:10:40 UTC
Not needed if you wanna look something in the internet open your browser. It´s not that hard.

-1
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#13 - 2014-10-15 08:20:09 UTC
Tabyll Altol wrote:
Not needed if you wanna look something in the internet open your browser. It´s not that hard.

-1


I don't want to leave EVE for that. If I have to leave EVE for looking something ingame-related up on the internet, I expose myself to risk I don't have control over. Oh, and playing in window mode is absolutely a no-go. Blink

UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-10-15 08:54:46 UTC
A browser which adds a single plugin increases it's holes by at least 100%. Your docs are not crashing because you cannot watch youtube or cause JS to spam new windows.
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#15 - 2014-10-15 11:30:02 UTC
The IGB is not getting updated, once CREST is up to par the IGB will be removed.

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Zoltar Nosisk
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2014-10-15 11:34:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Zoltar Nosisk
CCP FoxFour wrote:
The IGB is not getting updated, once CREST is up to par the IGB will be removed.


We have been over this before, DO NOT REMOVE wormhole mapping from ingame.
You tried this before and received a lot of negative feedback, but here you are forcing through the changes anyway
Makari Aeron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2014-10-15 11:52:47 UTC
I tried arguing for a community driven project to update the IGB.....but CCP seems to be dead set on nuking the IGB from orbit to make sure it's dead.

CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty.

CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP
Captain Cean
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-10-15 11:53:17 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Tabyll Altol wrote:
Not needed if you wanna look something in the internet open your browser. It´s not that hard.

-1


I don't want to leave EVE for that. If I have to leave EVE for looking something ingame-related up on the internet, I expose myself to risk I don't have control over. Oh, and playing in window mode is absolutely a no-go. Blink


try frameless Window mode it will be a whole new world for you ^^
Tahnil
Gunboat Commando
#19 - 2014-10-15 12:04:15 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
Flash will not - and should not - ever be enabled in the IGB. It's a horrible security hazard and it needs to be purged from the internet with fire. What the IGB needs is proper and up-to-date HTML5 support.


Thank you, sir. +1
Tahnil
Gunboat Commando
#20 - 2014-10-15 12:09:10 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
The IGB is not getting updated, once CREST is up to par the IGB will be removed.


Question: How will CREST support the same use cases like the IGB? Like afore mentioned WH mapping?
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