Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Players like myself are already using the Nestor for that very role, though. And quite effectively might I add.
As I've said in other threads, the Nestor is the premier anti-ganking vessel. It decimates anything else by a long shot. It is also very, very good at logistics supports when station baiting and the like. Basically, a beast when needing logi for under a min.

The problem with the Nestor outside of high-sec seems to be that a carrier is only a small bit more expensive, yet far more effective. I know crap all about capital ships, but I'm assuming a carrier can rep a subcap? If not, I apologize for my ignorance.

It does struggle with cap though, which would be an issue in a *real* fight. Perhaps adjust the cap usage then. All this has been mentioned though, really just wanted to get that first paragraph across.

I also came with an idea for Nestor which I know has been discussed before about idea itself, but The reality is that Eve need more people to dare explore 0.0 and give 0.0 players more targets to run around and try to shoot at.

BLOPS ships are not good enough to do 0.0 sites with. the cap sucks, but their role and uniqueness is role combat bridging of fleets.

The Nestor with my idea is to give it a more unique exlporation vessel to run around the solar systems without the need to use gates. But a cyno lock offcourse. The vessel should not be able to use covert ops cloak. Normal cloak is fine enough. Pilot skills will determine if you survive in it or not.

Also the ship can in 0.0 alliances be used to save other people by offering refitting. Yes, a carrier can do this too, but a battleship is alot more versatile to save a stranded T3 that didnt bring a mobile depot and covert ops reconfiguration. (then a blops can jump in and bridge the pilot out).

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5031872

I hope devs has seen my post. Would be nice with a comment from devs that it is on the table for consideration.

I know the nestor will be very much used if it got a jumpdrive. A jumpdrive that can not bridge.

How does jump fatigue equal sub caps with jump drives and why would a fighter be allowed into a SMA and for what reason?

I think they are getting closer with the Nestor. Many of it's abilities and stats are looking good to me, especially the fitting service.

Add a small fleet hangar (2500 m3) and covert ops cloak ability and I'd buy one now.

However, if the add in the jump drive and ability to bridge I could go without the cloak, but I'd like to see it use covops cynos which is right in line with its exploration-type mission. Of course, the Astero and Stratios would have to be able to light the covops cynos.

Jump Fatigue does not equal sub cap ships with jump drive. It would help corral the abuse of jump drives on sub caps, say, the nestor.

As for fighters, well...I suppose everyone is not as familiar with them so here's why. Fighters need 5km3 of room, and can't fit in the drone bay. Fighters are a sort of small ship, exactly the size of shuttle. Soooo, if it fits then why not? What fighters can be used for attack things...usually big things...more importantly in a fleet you can delegate control which can open up a lot of interesting new tactics. They can also chase down your target around the solar system, cue the Benny Hill theme song![/quote]

Well i still don't feel they need jump drives particularly do to the extra time it takes just to sit in a ship with one.



as for fighters yes they can fir in drone bays but only on ships that can use them placing int in the maint bay would do nothing as you can't launch drones from any bay other then the drone bay.


as for the cyno jam nestor someone brought up, that would be cool

I've flown a nestor for a while and have a better feel of what it can do. It's a very average battleship, especially for its incredible price but it does have some use as a logistics platform.

• The remote repair role is easily its best attribute. I see this as being the focus for future improvements for the ship.
• The agility is excellent, as is the warp speed even if this is more of an Angel Cartel bonus and has no connection to other SoE ships.
• The attempt to lower the price by increasing the drop the nexus chip has failed to shave off more than 10%-15% from its exorbitant price tag.
• Given the upcoming nerf to jump drives, I see the drone regions being even less popular than they are now, and therefore less of these chips being utilized. The price isn't going to come down anytime soon without intervention.
• The 'scouting' role in its traits section is amusing. Nobody is going to use this thing to scout for a fleet when smaller and cheaper ships are far more capable. Battleships simply don't scout.
• Its damage output is average, so it's not a dps beast either, for missions or for pvp.
• Its bonuses are still 'darts thrown at a board' level of unfocused.

Recommendations:

1. Remove the probe bonus.
2. Remove the relic and data analyzer bonus.
3. Since it no longer needs 6 mids (for analyzers) remove one mid slot and add a low slot. This can still be used for cap generation for its role as a heavy subcap logistics platform, or to increase its toughness or damage output, both of which are very useful to it.
4. Increase its capacitor by another 5%-10%. Lasers and remote reps chew through its cap pretty quickly.
5. Focus its abilities on logistics, the 'Hospitalier' role it should have been from the start:

50% bonus to Remote Armor, Hull and Shield Repairer amount
200% bonus to Remote Armor, Hull and Shield Repairer range

Ok, I don't know whether this thrad is still alive, but it would be wonderful to see this ship gain a wider wormhole useage.

Here are some suggestions.

1. Give the Nestor Dscan immunity in the manner of the combat recons.
This allows the ship to travel with covert and cloaky wormhole fleets.

2. Allow the logistics bonus to also apply to shield repairers.

3. Remove all bonuses to large lasers, balance to assume they will not be fitted. Large range Bonus to SMALL lasers ONLY to allow useage in wolf rayetts.

4. Allow 30m3 bandwidth of "Gila" class bonuses to medium drones reflecting the fact that all the damage now comes from drones. Retain dronebay to allow for extended deployment losses. (Total battleship class damage to be consistent or slightly lower than best of class)

5. Balance powergrid, CPU, and capacitor to reflect these changes. Possibly reduce cap useage of repair modules.

This focuses the ship, and would be a far more useful vessel than currently exists and will not only be something quite focused, but also quite flexible.

No covert. Nah.

FTFY