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Associate fatigue with pilot and capital!!

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Moloney
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-10-13 21:02:04 UTC
Ccp, for the love of God, please grow a pair end ensure that there is n't a bloody obvious workaround to your up coming jump distance changes.

Power blocks are simply going to have taxi alts to move / swap out pilots to move caps.

The change is utterly useless unless it cannot be circumvented with the usual player ingenuity/exploitation.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#2 - 2014-10-13 21:05:27 UTC
Let me be the first to Roll at you.

Mr Epeen Cool
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2014-10-13 21:08:21 UTC
Why would you even want to do something like that to yourself?
Paranoid Loyd
#4 - 2014-10-13 21:08:22 UTC
2nd Roll

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-10-13 21:16:05 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
2nd Roll

Quoting for fail. RollLook at him and laugh as he got BALTEC'D!P

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!

Paranoid Loyd
#6 - 2014-10-13 21:19:08 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
2nd Roll

Quoting for fail. RollLook at him and laugh as he got BALTEC'D!P

It was the 2nd Roll not the second post. Roll

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Jess Tanner
Bangworks Systems Inc.
#7 - 2014-10-13 21:23:18 UTC
Moloney wrote:
Ccp, for the love of God, please grow a pair end ensure that there is n't a bloody obvious workaround to your up coming jump distance changes.

Power blocks are simply going to have taxi alts to move / swap out pilots to move caps.

The change is utterly useless unless it cannot be circumvented with the usual player ingenuity/exploitation.


I to read a TMC article then promptly **** post on the eve-o forums.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-10-13 21:23:38 UTC
CCP already commented on this. Greyscale said if people want devoted taxi alts, thats their business, they believe pilots will always be the bottleneck over ships. Fact is, to get that "taxi" alt to move the ships much faster, youll have to burn them through and get a several hour cooldown anyways, in the grand scheme, maintaining enough alts for that sole purpose to make it a viable alternative would likely end up being so economically inefficient as to be laughable.
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#9 - 2014-10-13 21:31:38 UTC
In Eve...

There is an axiom...

"Adapt or GTFO and go back to WoW"

The former is what our bloc friends are doing in response to announced changes.

And will continue to do...

Sooooo......

To reiterate what Mr. Epeen and Mr. Paranoid Loyd have said.......

Quote:
Roll


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Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.

Miyammato Musashi
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
#10 - 2014-10-13 21:49:16 UTC
Devblog day one: We're going to start fixing null.

CCP announcement a few days later.

Good one CCP. 9/10

I am a meat popsicle. 

Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-10-13 22:27:17 UTC
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#12 - 2014-10-13 23:00:01 UTC
Ships don't have much data associated with them. Players do.

That's why forcefield passwords belong to the pilot, not the ship, and un-piloted ships can be ejected.

Of course, repackaging a ship would just reset any associated data.
Thatt Guy
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-10-13 23:22:35 UTC
Moloney wrote:
Ccp, for the love of God, please grow a pair end ensure that there is n't a bloody obvious workaround to your up coming jump distance changes.

Power blocks are simply going to have taxi alts to move / swap out pilots to move caps.

The change is utterly useless unless it cannot be circumvented with the usual player ingenuity/exploitation.



just because some idiot posted a bs article, doesn't make it true

Haters gonna hate, Trolls gonna troll.

Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#14 - 2014-10-13 23:23:19 UTC
Moloney wrote:
Ccp, for the love of God, please grow a pair end ensure that there is n't a bloody obvious workaround to your up coming jump distance changes.

Power blocks are simply going to have taxi alts to move / swap out pilots to move caps.

The change is utterly useless unless it cannot be circumvented with the usual player ingenuity/exploitation.


Pretty sure that was already built-in to the system.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#15 - 2014-10-14 01:05:14 UTC
"Everyone needs JDC V, get out of my alliance if you're not JDC V" - SOTAs of 2014

"Everybody needs to have 10 taxi alts, be training taxi alts, anyone with less than ten is getting kicked" - SOTAs of 2015
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-10-14 01:30:10 UTC
Moloney wrote:
Ccp, for the love of God, please grow a pair end ensure that there is n't a bloody obvious workaround to your up coming jump distance changes.

Power blocks are simply going to have taxi alts to move / swap out pilots to move caps.

The change is utterly useless unless it cannot be circumvented with the usual player ingenuity/exploitation.


Ok. I'll get all of my alts to pilot JF's and jump them throughout nullsec then repackage and ship them to jita to sell. Now the poor sucker who buys them will get a JF with 6 month cooldowns while I manufacture my next set of JF's to put all my fatigue in until it can no longer jump within an acceptable timeframe.Shocked

Now imagine if the CFC did this to their subcap doctrines. They jump their baltec fleets all around and then sell it to Jita with their associated 6 month cooldowns as they laugh at all the empire space capsuleers suddenly being burdened with those jump cooldown as they manufacture their next set of baltecs to drop on MoA and friends.

Same thing with caps and supercaps. Poor big C will have to jump that leviathan around via gates to put it into his 3rd party POS for the exchange. Imagine the market being flooded with dreads with 1 year jump cooldowns.Shocked

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!

Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-10-14 01:38:31 UTC
Moloney wrote:
Ccp, for the love of God, please grow a pair end ensure that there is n't a bloody obvious workaround to your up coming jump distance changes.

Power blocks are simply going to have taxi alts to move / swap out pilots to move caps.

The change is utterly useless unless it cannot be circumvented with the usual player ingenuity/exploitation.


lol. really though; lol.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-10-14 01:43:26 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Moloney wrote:
Ccp, for the love of God, please grow a pair end ensure that there is n't a bloody obvious workaround to your up coming jump distance changes.

Power blocks are simply going to have taxi alts to move / swap out pilots to move caps.

The change is utterly useless unless it cannot be circumvented with the usual player ingenuity/exploitation.


Ok. I'll get all of my alts to pilot JF's and jump them throughout nullsec then repackage and ship them to jita to sell. Now the poor sucker who buys them will get a JF with 6 month cooldowns while I manufacture my next set of JF's to put all my fatigue in until it can no longer jump within an acceptable timeframe.Shocked

Now imagine if the CFC did this to their subcap doctrines. They jump their baltec fleets all around and then sell it to Jita with their associated 6 month cooldowns as they laugh at all the empire space capsuleers suddenly being burdened with those jump cooldown as they manufacture their next set of baltecs to drop on MoA and friends.

Same thing with caps and supercaps. Poor big C will have to jump that leviathan around via gates to put it into his 3rd party POS for the exchange. Imagine the market being flooded with dreads with 1 year jump cooldowns.Shocked


As for this, I'm not sure if you believe it would be a viable workaround, or are typing it as satire, but lets pretend for a moment that you are serious;

What you are talking about is a huge regular influx of fatigue saturated capitals from null to high. Given that lots of people would adopt this, there would almost immediately be massive oversupply, and noone would purchase caps that werent packaged off the market, thus meaning 0 demand. You'd saturate your caps to 6 months of fatigue, then unless you could repackage them to wipe the fatigue, which I imagine would be blocked, you wouldn't actually be able to sell them. So, more realistically, you would accumulate 4 or 6 sets of capitals, that you would use on a rotating basis as their fatigue periods cooled off.

As for the jumpfreighters, you can already make a heap of jumps in 1 day without building up a really bad fatigue timer, so you'd actually be wasting more time trying to sell them, than simply waiting 6-11 minutes each jump for the fatigue to wear off, where you are already made to wait a similar time period simply for making the jump.
Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#19 - 2014-10-14 02:31:24 UTC
Moloney wrote:
Ccp, for the love of God, please grow a pair end ensure that there is n't a bloody obvious workaround to your up coming jump distance changes.

Power blocks are simply going to have taxi alts to move / swap out pilots to move caps.

The change is utterly useless unless it cannot be circumvented with the usual player ingenuity/exploitation.


Well, while we're at the obvious workarounds, having two (or multiple capitals) works around your suggestion PCool
ISD Gallifreyan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#20 - 2014-10-14 03:25:14 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Gallifreyan
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