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Would you play on a new server instance?

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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#21 - 2014-10-13 12:43:09 UTC
*sigh*

Roll

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Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#22 - 2014-10-13 12:52:42 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
It has nothing to do with veterans wanting to maintain some illusory advantage. EVE isn't like other MMOs where "level" matters. Character skills don't make you 'better' for the most part , they mostly give you access to new equipment and ways of doing things.

I sold the 1st character I ever made and i still have the 2nd one. That 2nd character can fly more ships and use more guns than any of my other characters. But the 3 focused characters I made (for various PVE related things, like incursions and Faction warfare missions) are much younger and much much better at what I use them for than that character that is years older.

Bottom line, a 'clean slate' won't cure a bad player's inadequacies (no matter how many skill points they have, they will still suck) and a good player isn't concerned about this kind of thing in the 1st place because he is more concerned about creating a good character that can do what needs to be done.


Why do you automatically presume anyone agreeing that there might be a case for a new server is a "bad" player? That's akin to thinking that everyone leaving a shop is a shoplifter...

My character is exactly where I want him to be, same with alts. I can do whatever I want to and mostly buy whatever I want to.

But I must suck because I think the idea has merit? Really?

Man that's a narrow minded viewpoint.

Some players on here have had the satisfaction of starting with a clean slate when this server started, with nothing freely available to buy apart from skill books and blueprints. Then building everything from scratch.

I wouldn't mind having the same opportunity.

Solecist Project...." They refuse to play by the rules and laws of the game and use it as excuse ..." " They don't care about how you play as long as they get to play how they want."

Welcome to EVE.

Dwissi
Miners Delight Reborn
#23 - 2014-10-13 12:56:18 UTC
Drago Shouna wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
It has nothing to do with veterans wanting to maintain some illusory advantage. EVE isn't like other MMOs where "level" matters. Character skills don't make you 'better' for the most part , they mostly give you access to new equipment and ways of doing things.

I sold the 1st character I ever made and i still have the 2nd one. That 2nd character can fly more ships and use more guns than any of my other characters. But the 3 focused characters I made (for various PVE related things, like incursions and Faction warfare missions) are much younger and much much better at what I use them for than that character that is years older.

Bottom line, a 'clean slate' won't cure a bad player's inadequacies (no matter how many skill points they have, they will still suck) and a good player isn't concerned about this kind of thing in the 1st place because he is more concerned about creating a good character that can do what needs to be done.


Why do you automatically presume anyone agreeing that there might be a case for a new server is a "bad" player? That's akin to thinking that everyone leaving a shop is a shoplifter...

My character is exactly where I want him to be, same with alts. I can do whatever I want to and mostly buy whatever I want to.

But I must suck because I think the idea has merit? Really?

Man that's a narrow minded viewpoint.

Some players on here have had the satisfaction of starting with a clean slate when this server started, with nothing freely available to buy apart from skill books and blueprints. Then building everything from scratch.

I wouldn't mind having the same opportunity.


Not taking Jenn's side here - but what you want to achieve can be done without creating a new server.

Just declare independence from all existing markets besides blueprints and start off making due for yourself/corporation. Thats how my corporation worked originally and that's why we still call it a sandbox.

Proud designer of glasses for geeky dovakins

Before someone complains again: grr everyone

Greed is the death of loyalty

Tuscor
13.
#24 - 2014-10-13 13:03:12 UTC
This suggestion/idea flies in the face of everything eve stands for... the whole 'everyone playing in one universe, actions have consequences' thing...?

Lady Areola Fappington
#25 - 2014-10-13 13:08:52 UTC
A new server won't get rid of assorted alliances web services, forums, organization, et al. In a way, Tranquility itself is just a part of a much greater whole that is Eve.

You might see a mad scramble of sov at first, but the old-timers will soon get organized, established, and evicting 10 man groups who thought they'd get to hold sov on a "new" server.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide

Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#26 - 2014-10-13 13:09:13 UTC
Dwissi wrote:
Drago Shouna wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
It has nothing to do with veterans wanting to maintain some illusory advantage. EVE isn't like other MMOs where "level" matters. Character skills don't make you 'better' for the most part , they mostly give you access to new equipment and ways of doing things.

I sold the 1st character I ever made and i still have the 2nd one. That 2nd character can fly more ships and use more guns than any of my other characters. But the 3 focused characters I made (for various PVE related things, like incursions and Faction warfare missions) are much younger and much much better at what I use them for than that character that is years older.

Bottom line, a 'clean slate' won't cure a bad player's inadequacies (no matter how many skill points they have, they will still suck) and a good player isn't concerned about this kind of thing in the 1st place because he is more concerned about creating a good character that can do what needs to be done.


Why do you automatically presume anyone agreeing that there might be a case for a new server is a "bad" player? That's akin to thinking that everyone leaving a shop is a shoplifter...

My character is exactly where I want him to be, same with alts. I can do whatever I want to and mostly buy whatever I want to.

But I must suck because I think the idea has merit? Really?

Man that's a narrow minded viewpoint.

Some players on here have had the satisfaction of starting with a clean slate when this server started, with nothing freely available to buy apart from skill books and blueprints. Then building everything from scratch.

I wouldn't mind having the same opportunity.


Not taking Jenn's side here - but what you want to achieve can be done without creating a new server.

Just declare independence from all existing markets besides blueprints and start off making due for yourself/corporation. Thats how my corporation worked originally and that's why we still call it a sandbox.



I'm 99% self sufficient anyway, about the only thing I ever need to buy is the odd datacore or mats for a T2 item, I even make all my own pos fuel from mining to pi. I don't even really need to do T2, I only invent for personal satisfaction, no spreadsheets etc for market trading.

But starting from scratch without any temptation from an existing market? yeah that does attract me.

Solecist Project...." They refuse to play by the rules and laws of the game and use it as excuse ..." " They don't care about how you play as long as they get to play how they want."

Welcome to EVE.

Bruce Kemp
Suddenly taken over
#27 - 2014-10-13 13:09:59 UTC
CCP should run a #back in the day' 2003 eve online server, just to let you know how good you have it now. Lol
gobbybobby
Negative-Impact
#28 - 2014-10-13 13:12:06 UTC
splitting the community is a bad thing. U can unofficially play on the serenity server tho Its not as old as TQ.
Pleistarchus Shikkoken
Doomheim
#29 - 2014-10-13 13:15:47 UTC
BrundleMeth wrote:
CCP please Biomass OP As Soon As Possible...


Yeah give him a fresh start Lol
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#30 - 2014-10-13 13:15:55 UTC
Why would you want to remove the only thing that makes playing EVE worthwhile - the history?
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#31 - 2014-10-13 13:44:18 UTC
I had a scary dream last night.

My daughter and I were being chased by zombies. We turned a corner and came upon the CCP staff filming the 'Amarr Worship' scene for the new propaganda film.

So here were all these actors, strung up helpless in harnesses to simulate the micro-gravity in which the truly devout practice their dedication, set out like buffet. My ex-wife was the first to be eaten by the zombie hoard as they overwhelmed the set. It was a total bloodbath.

Fortunately, I fought them off with Michonne's sword and my daughter and I escaped.

The season opener for TWD always affects me weirdly. Still, it would be some great content to supply my favorite two things in the world. Sci-fi and zombies.

If the new server had stuff like this, I would totally sign up!

Mr Epeen Cool

Neesa Corrinne
Nyx Legion..
Breakpoint.
#32 - 2014-10-13 14:31:26 UTC
Yes.

I would play a restarted EVE. It would be fun to see everyone start from zero again.

The two things that would ruin the fun, however, would be PLEX and ISboxing. I would say that a new instance of the game should be PLEX and ISBox free for the first year, at least as much as possible.

Interestingly, the game that EVE was primarily based off of, Tradewars2002, would reset at a specific time and whoever owned the most space, credits and just plain "stuff" combined was the winner of that round.
Charax Bouclier
Silvershield Universal
#33 - 2014-10-13 14:32:54 UTC
As a newish player, I wouldn't expect my relative power to increase on a brand new server. Knowledge is power and a new server won't make me more competitive. Only time/experience will.
Dwissi
Miners Delight Reborn
#34 - 2014-10-13 14:47:32 UTC
Neesa Corrinne wrote:
Yes.

I would play a restarted EVE. It would be fun to see everyone start from zero again.

The two things that would ruin the fun, however, would be PLEX and ISboxing. I would say that a new instance of the game should be PLEX and ISBox free for the first year, at least as much as possible.

Interestingly, the game that EVE was primarily based off of, Tradewars2002, would reset at a specific time and whoever owned the most space, credits and just plain "stuff" combined was the winner of that round.



You forgot character transfer on your list :)

Proud designer of glasses for geeky dovakins

Before someone complains again: grr everyone

Greed is the death of loyalty

Kaidu Kahn
POT Corp
#35 - 2014-10-13 15:14:16 UTC
Let me put this in another similar context. "Hello Mr. x, this is your bank. We know you have worked hard and diligently kept up your mortgage payment up for the last 8 years, BUT we really want you to start over from the beginning."

NO
Dwissi
Miners Delight Reborn
#36 - 2014-10-13 15:16:50 UTC
Kaidu Kahn wrote:
Let me put this in another similar context. "Hello Mr. x, this is your bank. We know you have worked hard and diligently kept up your mortgage payment up for the last 8 years, BUT we really want you to start over from the beginning."

NO


Read OP again - not asking for a reset but talking about a new server. No reason to panic - you can keep what you have

Proud designer of glasses for geeky dovakins

Before someone complains again: grr everyone

Greed is the death of loyalty

Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#37 - 2014-10-13 15:27:26 UTC
Drago Shouna wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
It has nothing to do with veterans wanting to maintain some illusory advantage. EVE isn't like other MMOs where "level" matters. Character skills don't make you 'better' for the most part , they mostly give you access to new equipment and ways of doing things.

I sold the 1st character I ever made and i still have the 2nd one. That 2nd character can fly more ships and use more guns than any of my other characters. But the 3 focused characters I made (for various PVE related things, like incursions and Faction warfare missions) are much younger and much much better at what I use them for than that character that is years older.

Bottom line, a 'clean slate' won't cure a bad player's inadequacies (no matter how many skill points they have, they will still suck) and a good player isn't concerned about this kind of thing in the 1st place because he is more concerned about creating a good character that can do what needs to be done.


Why do you automatically presume anyone agreeing that there might be a case for a new server is a "bad" player? That's akin to thinking that everyone leaving a shop is a shoplifter...

My character is exactly where I want him to be, same with alts. I can do whatever I want to and mostly buy whatever I want to.

But I must suck because I think the idea has merit? Really?

Man that's a narrow minded viewpoint.

Some players on here have had the satisfaction of starting with a clean slate when this server started, with nothing freely available to buy apart from skill books and blueprints. Then building everything from scratch.

I wouldn't mind having the same opportunity.


I started playing EVE 4 years after it launched. I then 'built everything from scratch". What does this have to do with what anyone else is doing. If you want to start from scratch, do so, make a new alt and don't give yourself any resources from your existing characters.

But to say that a fundamental change to a game that would have an effect on the holders of 400,000 accounts is reasonable 'because you'd like a clean slate' is both unreasonable and insanely selfish. The 'single shard universe' (minus what CCP has had to do to appease the Chinese Government) is a core aspect of EVE Online and should not be screwed with. Ever.

And yeas, making the mere suggestion denotes a bad player.
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#38 - 2014-10-13 15:34:15 UTC
Roflsaures Rex wrote:
I've always thought that a brand new server instance where everyone starts over fresh would be really great for this game and for attracting new players who have hesitated to previously join due to thinking they would be too far behind. Any thoughts?

Edit: I've been playing for four years on my main account, and opened two alt accounts this past year. Would definitely be interested in a new server instance.


This thread happens a lot, and the answer is always mostly "yes".... resoundingly so, in fact.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

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RomeStar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#39 - 2014-10-13 15:44:11 UTC
If you could train skills on both pilots at the same time hell yeah I would play on two separate servers. Why not, it would be a clean slate that would be crapped on within a few weeks but the tears would be priceless from bitter vets complaining about how dead the server is.

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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#40 - 2014-10-13 15:47:41 UTC
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