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Iain Cariaba
#41 - 2014-10-05 15:57:48 UTC
Snip King wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Snip King wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
As for your baseless claim that I'm afraid of highsec can flippers, I'm not quite sure how that could possibly be. When you consider I live in nullsec and the only actions I take in highsec are a Jita trade alt and a DST pilot for when I find a nice wormhole to highsec, I fail to see how any form of logic would conclude I'm afraid of you.


So you don't even play in high sec which pretty much means you know anything about can flipping. So why were you saying "nothing has changed"?

Stop posting here nullbear.

Ha, please. I've been everywhere and done damn near everything there is to do in EvE. I've likely forgotten more about this game then you have learned, and more than once I've changed "career tracks" because I felt the one I was on got nerfed too hard.

I adapted.

I damn well didn't come onto forums and start shiptoasting and *****ing about how bad a particular nerf was trying to get it changed back, especially not almost 2 years after the change.

Deal with it, or Get The **** Out. You had a chance to say something two years ago. This is too little, too late, and only makes you look like a whiny little carebear.

What's the difference between a nullbear and a carebear? A nullbear looks at the situation and thinks, "How can I turn this to my advantage?" A carebear posts a whiny thread on forums in an effort to get CCP to make changes. Wanna guess which you are?

How about you be on topic or get out?

And what's this....Bears and thinking? haha. Nullbear or carebear they all the same bearsef.

Thus the whiny thread to CCP to get changes made. Keep posting, carebear.
Snip King
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#42 - 2014-10-05 16:22:50 UTC
WILLY TROPICAL wrote:
If you live in high sec Gallente and want endless pvp just go to Orvolle and take the PF gate or go to Stacmon and fly to Ostingele.
Don't get me wrong, i don't care how you play, but if you are complaining about lack of pvp i'm giving some options if you don't want to travel 20 jumps to find a fight.


Thanks for suggestions, I will try that out.

With regards to this thread, I am not complaining about lack of PVP. I am just asking for can flipping to be as it was few years ago. The fun it used to be...I seriously miss itCry

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Marsan
#43 - 2014-10-05 17:21:17 UTC
Ah the tears of people too lazy to pvp with any major risk. Keep going tell me how the neutral repping nerf made you sad.

Former forum cheerleader CCP, now just a grumpy small portion of the community.
Snip King
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#44 - 2014-10-05 18:41:00 UTC
Marsan wrote:
Ah the tears of people too lazy to pvp with any major risk. Keep going tell me how the neutral repping nerf made you sad.

Awesome post man. You just nailed it.......not really.

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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#45 - 2014-10-08 19:40:59 UTC
Just shoot the miner and stop dancing around his can.

Evil RatKid
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#46 - 2014-10-09 01:27:26 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Just shoot the miner and stop dancing around his can.

Not a bad idea but it is still not the same, shot the miners now and you have a 100% chance to get a visit from Concord back then it provided a level of interaction between flippers and miners that you simply cannot get now. Back then the miner had the choice in the situation, they could ignore the flipper or they could choose any one of several ways to engage the flipper in an effort to get their stuff back. For the can flippers I knew the real interest to them was the preparation for and trying to deal with how the whole situation went down. Today the scenario is easy choose target, shoot target and if you have done the simple math right the miner dies before you do. If not you get to sit in your pod and watch as your target flies off with tail between legs.

For all of the hassles and problems it caused I still prefer the old way.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#47 - 2014-10-09 01:38:08 UTC
Snip King wrote:

Yes, but for miners.

I mine, I can flip if people are dumb enough to jetcan mine near me. Why bother mining when I can steal it from another miner.
Can flipping will not get changed back, it was a terrible mechanic then and would still be now.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#48 - 2014-10-09 02:31:38 UTC
I do miss can flipping miners in a battle Iteron.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#49 - 2014-10-09 02:37:57 UTC
You can still flip them, it's just unlikely they will ever try to steal it back. The harsher penalties have only created a disincentive to player interaction for both potential parties.

Pretty much the story of highsec.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#50 - 2014-10-09 03:16:24 UTC
Nah, they should leave it as is. What greater fun is there if you flip the can on a soft target and half the system tries to lock and kill you? Blink

The only time I miss it is how easy it was to snake a freighter wreck. Pirate

Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#51 - 2014-10-09 10:14:22 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
I do miss can flipping miners in a battle Iteron.

Do it in a battle Proc instead these days. Just harder to find cans to flip, but some people use them with covetor fleets.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#52 - 2014-10-09 11:47:57 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You can still flip them, it's just unlikely they will ever try to steal it back.

This is incorrect. Once you steal the ore and become suspect flagged anyone in the game can take anything from a container owned by you without becoming flagged themselves. The "flipping" part literally doesn't exist anymore.

Yet another example of CCP Greyscales great ideas for "fairer" aggression mechanics.
afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2014-10-09 11:50:21 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You can still flip them, it's just unlikely they will ever try to steal it back. The harsher penalties have only created a disincentive to player interaction for both potential parties.

Pretty much the story of highsec.



You steal it, jettison it and then shoot it.


Oh boy that make 'em mad. See you're not even stealing it, you're just wantonly destroying it - just because.


Also yeah, jetcan mining died with the barge rebalance


And thirdly - OP seriously needs to toughen up some.
Snip King
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#54 - 2014-10-11 19:27:49 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Snip King wrote:

Yes, but for miners.

I mine, I can flip if people are dumb enough to jetcan mine near me. Why bother mining when I can steal it from another miner.
Can flipping will not get changed back, it was a terrible mechanic then and would still be now.


Stealing the can is possible. But the fun part was in making miner do something brave or stupid to get it back. Unfortunately that doesn't happen anymore.

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Snip King
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#55 - 2014-10-11 19:29:50 UTC
afkalt wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You can still flip them, it's just unlikely they will ever try to steal it back. The harsher penalties have only created a disincentive to player interaction for both potential parties.

Pretty much the story of highsec.



You steal it, jettison it and then shoot it.


Oh boy that make 'em mad. See you're not even stealing it, you're just wantonly destroying it - just because.


Also yeah, jetcan mining died with the barge rebalance


And thirdly - OP seriously needs to toughen up some.


I lost plenty of ships before too and even then it was fun. But now it doesn't feel the same anymore Sad.

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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#56 - 2014-10-11 20:18:35 UTC
I don't care about everyone being able to shoot me, people shoot you less now than they did before because for some reason people think shooting a guy everyone can shoot is more dangerous than the one only you can shoot.

Maybe a confidence bluff effect scares them away?!

EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#57 - 2014-10-11 22:22:32 UTC
If you want to shoot someone, go suicide gank them. Stop with the can flipping nonsense.
Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#58 - 2014-10-12 02:48:15 UTC
Go to lowsec, blow up a few frigs.

"Maybe" you will get over your fear.
Snip King
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#59 - 2014-10-13 00:01:30 UTC
Arsine Mayhem wrote:
Go to lowsec, blow up a few frigs.

"Maybe" you will get over your fear.


Fear of what?

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Snip King
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#60 - 2014-10-13 00:03:07 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
If you want to shoot someone, go suicide gank them. Stop with the can flipping nonsense.


Why should I stop with can flipping when it used to be one of the best things to do in EvE?

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