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Do Care Bears Exist ?
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Nevil Oscillator
#1 - 2014-10-12 20:00:41 UTC
It seems that some players who prefer outlaw type activities refer to other players as care bears, possibly as some self ego boosting fantasy where they are one of the dangerous ones.

As far as I can tell there is little if no industry that isn't actually part of the logistic support for the combat efforts of capsuleers.

So..

Do Care Bears Exist ?

In terms of Eve, there are a few economic facts I am curious about.

Is the player driven market really entirely isolated ? and is that for better, worse and more or less realistic ?
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2014-10-12 20:03:14 UTC
They were upgraded to Nullbears.

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-10-12 20:05:12 UTC
Personally, I use the word whenever ever I get players raging at me, insulting me, swearing, stuff like that. They clearly care about the game too much, if they are getting that emotional, and I consider that kind of thing unhealthy.

Now I could stoop to their level and do it back, but that will probably get me banned, so I just call them a carebear instead. As for typical "carebear" activities, I do that stuff too, despite being an outlaw Twisted
David Therman
#4 - 2014-10-12 20:10:46 UTC
Yes. There was an occasion not long ago where someone in my corp finally got up to Exhumers, and bought himself a Mack. A couple of days later, he promptly got ganked in it... when he posted the loss-mail, it was simply 2 strip-miner's, a couple of mining upgrades and, if I remember correctly, 1 adaptive field. No rigs, no shield extenders, on a Mack. I felt like banging my head on the wall... which I did, when I found out he'd posted a thread on here (GD, of all places) about "miners not having enough protection". And this was someone who has been active for a few months at the very least.

I'd say that fits the definition of a "care-bear".

Solecist Project
#5 - 2014-10-12 20:13:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Most people have no clue of the definition of a carebear.

There are several types of bears who share characteristics.

There's the carebear, which is the broad term ...

The fleetbear ... who whines about the lack of FCs.
The nullbear ... who whines about afk cloakers.
The gankbear ... like CODE people.


They're all carebears, simply because they're either whiny, cowards or both.

They run big mouths, but in the end have nothing to actually show off,
while constantly trying to derail from this very fact.


You can find them easily, because they can not stop talking like big men.
Then you make them hide in station all day, because they can not realistically
harm you in any way ... and they will smack even more, because it shows them
how weak they actually are.

And in case you DO get a hold of them and kill their ships ...
... you can expect even more.


At that point one should feel highly encouraged to post the story in C&P ...
... to make everyone aware of this sad little kid.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Hicksimus
Torgue
#6 - 2014-10-12 20:14:08 UTC
I thought it was pretty obvious that cartoon bears shooting magical powers from their tummies didn't exist but some people have romantic dinners with pillows so here I go.

Care Bears do not exist, if you do suspect that a bear is talking to you please run away, especially if it is swearing at you about spaceships.

Recruitment Officer: What type of a pilot are you? Me: I've been described as a Ray Charles with Parkinsons and a drinking problem.
Marsha Mallow
#7 - 2014-10-12 20:21:53 UTC
Most people grind for ISK at some point, somehow. The difference between players and carebears is the degree to which they accept there are risks.

People playing purely to farm/grind (I've always found 'grinder' a better term) seem to think they play in a vacuum and have the right to pump out ISK unmolested because they weren't bothering anyone. And they are nice. And highsec is meant to be safe because it's for noobs and wimps, yada yada. Interrupt their grinding though and they turn into scarebears, which always makes me wonder. Who are the real 'sociopaths' in the equation?

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#8 - 2014-10-12 20:38:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Carebearing is a state of being in eve terms rather than a strict definition, General traits would be ,
risk aversion (not management),
sperging allover [forums/local/private chat/public chat] whenever their preconceived notions about eve are altered by eve's actual nature.
fixation on isk/associated stuff .
General difficulty to disassociate emotional value responses from digital actions.
an unwillingness to adapt, instead pleading to the authority (ccp) to "fix".

you see this from all corners at some point.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#9 - 2014-10-12 20:42:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Solecist Project wrote:
Most people have no clue of the definition of a carebear.

There are several types of bears who share characteristics.

There's the carebear, which is the broad term ...

The fleetbear ... who whines about the lack of FCs.
The nullbear ... who whines about afk cloakers.
The gankbear ... like CODE people.


They're all carebears, simply because they're either whiny, cowards or both.

They run big mouths, but in the end have nothing to actually show off,
while constantly trying to derail from this very fact.


You can find them easily, because they can not stop talking like big men.
Then you make them hide in station all day, because they can not realistically
harm you in any way ... and they will smack even more, because it shows them
how weak they actually are.

And in case you DO get a hold of them and kill their ships ...
... you can expect even more.


At that point one should feel highly encouraged to post the story in C&P ...
... to make everyone aware of this sad little kid.

There's also F1bears

And elitepvpbears

and hotdropbears


Let me add wreckingbears and apexforcebears to that

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#10 - 2014-10-12 20:44:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
The rarely seen and elusive "awarebear" who will act casual when scrutinized .
the "gang bear" which will shy from conflict solo.

Incursion bears of corse .

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Solecist Project
#11 - 2014-10-12 20:48:35 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
There's also F1bears
And elitepvpbears
and hotdropbears

Let me add wreckingbears and apexforcebears to that


F1bears = fleetbears
elitepvpbears = CODE wannabees.


but hey, hotdropbears and the other two you've mentioned are new to me!

Please elaborate! :D

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#12 - 2014-10-12 20:52:59 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
There's also F1bears
And elitepvpbears
and hotdropbears

Let me add wreckingbears and apexforcebears to that


F1bears = fleetbears
elitepvpbears = CODE wannabees.


but hey, hotdropbears and the other two you've mentioned are new to me!

Please elaborate! :D

Er no, we don't worry about lack of FCs.

And elitepvpbears is probably referring more to people who loved using titans to doomsday frigate roams and whatnot.


You haven't heard of a wreckingball or an apexforce?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Solecist Project
#13 - 2014-10-12 21:00:28 UTC
Ah I put the fleetbears into the F1 category,
because that's all they do ... but I guess you lack no FCs, no. %)


I've heard of the WreckingBall, but no idea about apexforce, no.
WreckingBall was way too present on the forums,
through all that whining,
to be missalbe.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-10-12 21:13:43 UTC
Nobody mentioned forumwarriorbears yet.
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2014-10-12 21:15:50 UTC
A carebear (imo) is someone who shuns away from the idea of others being able to have a negative impact or almost any affect at all, towards them.

There is no single gameplay that makes you a carebear, but some activities do have a higher percentage of them.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#16 - 2014-10-12 21:21:04 UTC
It's not really about what you do in game. It's more about the attitude of some and their belief they should be able to play without interference. They also try to attach morals, to game play they dislike. Yes, we have plenty of those types in-game.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#17 - 2014-10-12 21:42:56 UTC
Mag's wrote:
It's not really about what you do in game. It's more about the attitude of some and their belief they should be able to play without interference. They also try to attach morals, to game play they dislike. Yes, we have plenty of those types in-game.


This. Carebear is not an in game action, it's a state of mind.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Nevil Oscillator
#18 - 2014-10-12 22:13:50 UTC
Nevil Oscillator wrote:


As far as I can tell there is little if no industry that isn't actually part of the logistic support for the combat efforts of capsuleers.




So what you are all saying is that isn't a wildly untrue guess ?
Brochan McLeod
Frigateer
#19 - 2014-10-12 22:23:54 UTC
Nevil Oscillator wrote:
It seems that some players who prefer outlaw type activities refer to other players as care bears, possibly as some self ego boosting fantasy where they are one of the dangerous ones.

As far as I can tell there is little if no industry that isn't actually part of the logistic support for the combat efforts of capsuleers.

So..

Do Care Bears Exist ?

In terms of Eve, there are a few economic facts I am curious about.

Is the player driven market really entirely isolated ? and is that for better, worse and more or less realistic ?


All activities in EvE seem connected. So when miners mine and producers produce its all so it can be blown up by the ones that love to... blow stuff up.

The big problem is that different-minded groups of people are naturally unable to peacefully co-excist.... we are just unable... period! Not in RL and not in a stupid game... very sad indeed.

Its been like that since the dawn of humanity and its going to be like that till we lose the war-gene and learn to peacefully share the world...as in probably never!

Maybe argueing about trivial stuff (like this game) and slaughtering eachother's avatars in a pixelated reality is a solution?

And i prefer to do as much ingame as possible, so long as i dont have to break someones toys...
So yeah.... i might be a carebear Smile


Even the nicest person's patience has a limit!
Nevil Oscillator
#20 - 2014-10-12 22:36:56 UTC
Brochan McLeod wrote:


All activities in EvE seem connected. So when miners mine and producers produce its all so it can be blown up by the ones that love to... blow stuff up.



I was wondering if anyone knew to what extent trade goods exist ? everything seems to have a market value though not all things have an in game use. I'm also not sure that all market items can be manufactured.
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