Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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In order:
No

It's Not funny, so you're wrong.
It wastes resources, so you're wrong.
It's not exciting, it's a **** copy of a proper PvP option, so you're wrong.
Easy access is going to lowsec, joining FW, or joining RvB, so you're wrong.
Scared people can experiment by doing one of the above in a cheap ship, so you're wrong.
This does nothing to help people leave hisec, so you're wrong.

So in this, as in so many things, you're simply wrong.

tl;dr In time for the Christmas Holidays, Here's what your Idea is

Nobody cares where you lived, the Idea is ******.



It might be hard to believe but it was made on purpose so people will hate on a good suggestion which would be nice to them.
In other words they are hating and rejecting on their own wishes.
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If it weren't a ****** idea, it wouldn't be so soundly rejected by nearly everyone in the thread.

Sounds like UMADBRO and the age old "I'm not wrong cauze I wasn't srs, dudez" defense.

I did, and all I got was Houston Police Department. I'm not sure how I suffer at the hands of Houston Police Department when I live several states away from Texas, but if you say so, Please Help Save Me From the Houston Police!

I still have yet to see any reason why this *should* be developed. You're main argument seems to be that it doesn't hurt anyone which is not a good reason to add more structures in the sandbox.


Let me put it this way, say that Eve is a giant sandbox. It has some fixed toys in it, like monkey bars and a little rocking horse thing. The kids run around and spend as much or more time playing with each other as they do with the monkey bars and the rocking horse. The manager adds a slide. Now the kids play with each other a little less to fit the slide in. This goes on until all you have is a big jungle gym where the sandbox was and the kids have a hard time finding each other to play with, or just as bad, they don't have time between playing with each of the toys.

In a sandbox game you need a good, interesting reason to add *anything.* Create this option and what do you add to the game that *isn't* already availiable?
PvP on Demand > RvB and Faction Warfare(needs a fix but still provides the PvP targets on demand)
PvP in HiSec > RvB, Can Flipping, FW (if you're clever), Suicide Ganks, Organized Warfare
A Sense of Danger > Suicide Ganks (inbound), Can Flippers, RvB*, FW*
PvP at your Own pace > RvB, EUni's Lowsec Roams and occasional organized Wardecs

*While you're in it, but that limitation applies to your idea as well, since it's a toggle switch

Who cares about RvB? I dont wanna belong to any corp/war/alliance or whatsoever battle between 2 major groups of people.
Can flipping is PvP? Make me laugh noob.
FW is lowsec to start with, besides it still fight between teams or gate camps etc, I dont want to belong to any team besides my friends.
RvB already explained, I dont wanna go to lowsec as already explained as well.

Keep posting relevant stuff.


The universal pvp system would be nothing compared to anything existent at the moment in the game.
Would affect no one whatsoever that dont use it, and just by that theres no reason in denying it.

All other aspects already explained in this thread.

Can you just not see it? Can you not see why everyone is hating on your idea?

Its because its bad and everyone plays eve for what it is. You are hoping for a mechanic that doesn't add to the experience of what eve is. Your idea would just make eve feel more 'arcade style'

So to clean things out and make it easier to picture, heres a resume:



PROS

- One more thing you can do in EvE
- Dynamic Highsec real PvP, with hunting and survival and also the surprise element.
- Easy access to what real PvP is to people living in highsec that do not want to belong to any corp or alliance or leave highsec for now.
- A form of living
- Kills the boredom to many people in game bringing a new breath taking activity for a moment or a form of playing the game at all times.
- Connects a little bit more 0.0 experience and highsec, giving players an enthusiastic experience.
- One more way to create fights and ships and modules and ammo consumption bringing healthy activity to the economy.
- Many other pros..



CONS

- N/A


Its simple guys, you wanna try it? Use it.
You dont like it and total disagree? Dont use it.

In opposite of sooo many other features in eve that not even 5% of all the players use, this one could and WILL be, if implemented, a much very used feature for a LOT of players, experienced and non experienced. I guarantee you that.

Imagine:

You are bored, you turn on this option and grab your rifter and go, you travel a couple jumps and you see a red in local, use your scan, use your alt to scan him, etc etc etc..

Its just an addition to eve, is not a change, this is not supposed to fix anything.

1) I don't quite understand your line of argument for this being a pro. Is EvE lacking things to do? I guess if you are poking asteroids all day, you may feel that EvE is a sterile game that needs additional entertainment features implemented. Alt-tab and play solitaire.
2) There is nothing 'real' or 'dynamic' about sandbox PvP. You may also try FW, RvB and wardecs.
3) Again nothing real about PvP in high-sec. You are talking about a very, very small group of people that (a) live in high sec; (b) do not want to belong to a corp/alliance; (c) are too scared to jump into low sec to PvP; (d) are interested in PvP. If this feature will accommodate this group of people, then there is no reason to spend game resources on it. Refer them to a therapist and deal with their anxieties pertaining to leaving high sec or joining a corp/alliance.
4) No... it's not a form of living at all. It's a fad that you undertake for a couple of hours before returning to your mission/belt.
5) Could not decipher the latter part of this point, but in relation to boredom of many people - if you want to PvP: low sec is just a few jumps away. Also there is FW, RvB, wardecs...
6) No... it actually disconnects people from real PvP and distances them from 0.0. But even if you consider the OP's suggestion as real PvP - if you had this in high sec, why would you ever want to go to 0.0 to experience it?
7) Or... populate regions of space that already have this mechanic implemented (low-sec, 0.0) and create an economic demand in these regions. Oh the ISK sinks that logistics and ship/module replacement costs in low-sec and 0.0 would create!
8) Many other retorts...

1) How can 1 more thing to do ever be bad? Make sense.
2) Fw = lowsec .. I dont want lowsec..
RvB = War between 2 teams which I also have to belong to .. I dont wanna belong to anything I wanna ride free. (also RvB was created on purpose by players to do something similar to what this feature will do)
Wardecs = Once again, war between 2 teams.
3) Neither you or anyone else in this thread is a DEV, and have no idea about whatsoever how hard or not it is to implement such feature.
4) Its a form of living if you wanna have it on at all times, which brings a great suspense and dynamic way of playing the game.
5) I dont want lowsec.. how many times I have to repeat all of this?
6) I dont want lowsec..
8) Make sense

You still havent come up with ANY single argument of how this can be ever bad, but I proved many valid reasons of how this is a great feature.


Unless you are a DEV and say something like: This will be too hard to implement and is such feature is not in our plans for any time in the future"

Remember you are not a DEV, so give me reasons from a regular player point of view of how can this ever be bad, or just dont bother with this thread and move on.

Please dont post stuff that is already been answered. Read the thread before you post.


Again:

- I dont want lowsec neither 0.0, I wanna stay in highsec for awhile.
- I dont want to belong to any corp/alliance/team
- I want to experience PvP in highsec (hunting, survival) and live in constant dangerous in highsec for awhile or permanently.
- Ride on my own or with a couple friends, and look for valid targets in systems.
- Be missioning or ratting or mining or doing w/e and having to check local etc.. (0.0 feeling, and also good for new pilots)


I cant do this at the moment in eve, and this feature will make it possible.


Once again, you dont want it? Dont use it.

Or tell me how this will affect someone that doesnt like this feature!
I dont even know why are you even arguing, because you have shown no valid arguments.

I said: I dont want lowsec (this feature is for highsec purposes, its written in the first post)
Your argument (which doesnt affect you in anyway): Go lowsec for pvp

Go see a psychiatrist asap, thats my advice.


Besides, going to lowsec to pvp is TOTALLY different from what Im talking about (in game experience related).