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Dwarf star systems...

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Saberlily Whyteshadow
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-10-12 00:42:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Saberlily Whyteshadow
How about some solar systems with a Dwarf Star?

Think about it, wouldn't it be cool to "Fly-by instrument" only?? Solar systems with no light except a little glow from the far away nebulas??

This could open the door to "Night Fighting" in the world of EVE.. not necessarily pitch black night fighting.
Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#2 - 2014-10-12 00:52:33 UTC
Saberlily Whyteshadow
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-10-12 01:04:46 UTC
Kaerakh wrote:


Could not gather any info from the link provided.. other than is a wormhole..
Amber Lana
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2014-10-12 01:14:32 UTC
Saberlily Whyteshadow wrote:


Think about it, wouldn't it be cool to "Fly-by instrument" only??


We already fly by instruments.

"And it rained tears for fourty days and fourty nights."

Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#5 - 2014-10-12 01:19:16 UTC
Amber Lana wrote:
Saberlily Whyteshadow wrote:


Think about it, wouldn't it be cool to "Fly-by instrument" only??


We already fly by instruments.


This.

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Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#6 - 2014-10-12 01:19:48 UTC
Saberlily Whyteshadow wrote:
Kaerakh wrote:


Could not gather any info from the link provided.. other than is a wormhole..


Look harder then.
Saberlily Whyteshadow
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-10-12 01:42:25 UTC
Kaerakh wrote:
Saberlily Whyteshadow wrote:
Kaerakh wrote:


Could not gather any info from the link provided.. other than is a wormhole..


Look harder then.



Black Holes, It still has a sun that gives off light.. totally different from that I'm proposing. I'm talking about systems with a dead sun, where it gives off zero light..
Saberlily Whyteshadow
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-10-12 01:45:50 UTC
Jack Carrigan wrote:
Amber Lana wrote:
Saberlily Whyteshadow wrote:


Think about it, wouldn't it be cool to "Fly-by instrument" only??


We already fly by instruments.


This.


Of course we do.. but have you ever flown with using just shadows as your point of reference?? Would you have known if there was really anything there if you didn't have your overview set to show everything??
Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#9 - 2014-10-12 01:56:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaerakh
Saberlily Whyteshadow wrote:
Kaerakh wrote:
Saberlily Whyteshadow wrote:
Kaerakh wrote:


Could not gather any info from the link provided.. other than is a wormhole..


Look harder then.



Black Holes, It still has a sun that gives off light.. totally different from that I'm proposing. I'm talking about systems with a dead sun, where it gives off zero light..

You know that makes zero sense, right? Stars give off light. That's why they're called stars. And a 'dead star' is usually referred to as a black hole(for obvious reasons). Also, a black hole is not a 'sun' as it has wholly different characteristics. If you're referring to what happens to a star if it does not collapse into a black hole then usually you're talking about dust clouds.

So getting back to my point. We already have dead stars.
Saberlily Whyteshadow
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-10-12 02:08:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Saberlily Whyteshadow
Well I'm no rocket scientist or star expert.. guess using "Dead Star" is the wrong term..

Since we can't have "night" in space, I was just trying to propose systems where there are no suns to give off any light and we would have to work in total darkness. Kinda like getting caught out in the middle of nowhere in the dark without a flashlight and have to do what we need to do.
Starrakatt
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
#11 - 2014-10-12 02:54:24 UTC
It seems to me that 'Black Hole' WH are all binary star, one of which have collapsed to a black hole.

As the OP is saying, what a about a very dark, non-binary black hole systems, yes?

Just for the sake of having more visual/immersion diversity.
Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#12 - 2014-10-12 03:40:38 UTC
Saberlily Whyteshadow wrote:
Well I'm no rocket scientist or star expert.. guess using "Dead Star" is the wrong term..


I'm not a 'star expert' either(those people are referred to as astrophysicists). It's just basic common sense. This should have all been covered in your middle school science class. The links in my above posts public NASA web pages specifically for providing a cursory education for the common laymen like you or me.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#13 - 2014-10-12 04:17:24 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Saberlily Whyteshadow wrote:
Well I'm no rocket scientist or star expert.. guess using "Dead Star" is the wrong term..

Since we can't have "night" in space, I was just trying to propose systems where there are no suns to give off any light and we would have to work in total darkness. Kinda like getting caught out in the middle of nowhere in the dark without a flashlight and have to do what we need to do.

I know I am going to look like a jackass for doing this... but for the sake of science...


I know what you are trying to describe. You are referring to a "black dwarf."

When a small star (like our own Sun) reaches the end of its life it will transform into a "red giant" (destroying any nearby planets) and then "puff out" its outer layers (destroying or ejecting any planets that survived the "red giant" phase).
What is left is a "white dwarf"... the stellar core of a star with star-like mass but planet sized volume.

Understandably, this is a science fiction game... but, as the "black dwarf" wiki and this article point out, it would potentially take an ABSURD amount of time (longer than the current age of the universe) before a white dwarf can be truly "dead" (and thus not give off any heat/light whatsoever).

With regards to "black holes"... you are referring to a star that was once so massive it literally collapsed/imploded on itself when it reached the end of its life (oversimplification, I know). The result is an object/void that fucks around with time, gravity, anything affected by time and gravity, and is quite possibly a gross violation of all known physics within its event horizon.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#14 - 2014-10-12 04:31:24 UTC
a eve system is a star system which requires a star per definition

So if you are asking for dark areas of space you would want something far away from a star in deep space. As others said, stars don't turn simply off without causing some trouble to the rest of the system.

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#15 - 2014-10-12 04:33:35 UTC
Starrakatt wrote:
It seems to me that 'Black Hole' WH are all binary star, one of which have collapsed to a black hole.

As the OP is saying, what a about a very dark, non-binary black hole systems, yes?

Just for the sake of having more visual/immersion diversity.


All systems in EVE are binary, read the lore. To form a WH needs the binary and gates are artificial WH's.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#16 - 2014-10-12 06:42:55 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Starrakatt wrote:
It seems to me that 'Black Hole' WH are all binary star, one of which have collapsed to a black hole.

As the OP is saying, what a about a very dark, non-binary black hole systems, yes?

Just for the sake of having more visual/immersion diversity.


All systems in EVE are binary, read the lore. To form a WH needs the binary and gates are artificial WH's.


Systems in wormhole space, meanwhile, need not necessarily be binary as those wormholes are naturally-occuring, albeit catalyzed into occurring thanks to some ... well-timed and well-placed detonations of a certain specific explosive material.
Tragot Gomndor
Three Sword Inc
#17 - 2014-10-12 08:25:28 UTC
Actually every wh system with an effect is a binary starsystem, cuz Wolf-Rayets, Magnetars, Pulsar, etc, are startypes. They are just not real objects in ingame space, just background/skybox.

The light part is still an interessting thing, could already be in large systems, that the sun illuminates less light at far off planets. RL Pluto is pretty dark, if i am right. And its a planet again \o/

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Saberlily Whyteshadow
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-10-12 14:00:47 UTC
While we know that in real life there are many different stars and star behaviors, for the simple sake of EVE why cant we have some of the systems where we just turn off the light? Or systems that have imploded but remain mostly intact with no more light source to go exploring in.

I'm not trying to mesh real life and EVE here, just trying to get more diversity in playing this game. Which can either be new content for EVE, or keep EVE on its same path of just getting new ships only.
Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#19 - 2014-10-12 14:05:12 UTC
Saberlily Whyteshadow wrote:
While we know that in real life there are many different stars and star behaviors, for the simple sake of EVE why cant we have some of the systems where we just turn off the light? Or systems that have imploded but remain mostly intact with no more light source to go exploring in.

I'm not trying to mesh real life and EVE here, just trying to get more diversity in playing this game. Which can either be new content for EVE, or keep EVE on its same path of just getting new ships only.



In which case it's not a system if there isn't a star. It's just space.

Also, someone mentioned the binary star system thing being required for gates. I don't think anyone on the development staff has ever taken that bit seriously.
Starrakatt
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
#20 - 2014-10-12 14:32:12 UTC
Then if we want really 'dark' systems, then maybe the devs will come around one of these days and actually make distance from local stars matter, that is the further you are in-system, the less light you get, with almost no significant lightning at the outer edge oft he system.
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