Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So, I've been looking at the map while thinking about which NPC faction should be next in line for new ships. There seems to be 3 potential factions that could be up for it. Each of these three has reasons for and against. But in additional consideration, many players have been asking for the final missing Caldari/Minmatar pirate faction. So lets look at some of the potential candidates.

1. Equilibrium of Mankind (EoM)
2. Society of Conscious Thought (SoCT)
3. Thukker Tribe


https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Equilibrium_of_Mankind

Well, EoM is Amarrian. They fly Amarrian ships with hybrids and missiles. Right weapons. Wrong hulls. Wrong background. They have no sov, stations, or agents. They do not actually exist in the game except as rats to shoot in only 2 storyline missions. So much effort will be required to implement them. Not recommended.


https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Society_of_Conscious_Thought

SoCT is a Jove-founded faction that specializes in spiritual expression and teaching New Eden's best and brightest. They have sov in Geminate with 2 stations and 14 agents in those locations only. So the infrastructure is there for giving out LP and attaining ships. But the background is completely wrong for the racial types. Again, not recommended.


https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Thukker_Tribe

The Thukker Tribe is basically the Elder Tribes of the Minmatar people. They own all of the sov in Great Wildlands where they have 3 stations with agents. But they also have stations and agents all over New Eden, mostly in the south. Great Wildlands borders on Minmatar and Caldari space. Local pirates are Angels. Their LP store gives out mostly implants. But also faction shield extenders, power diagnostic units, reactor control units, micro-aux power cores, specialty projectile weapon skillbooks, and notably mid-grade nomad implants.

I cannot think of a better suited faction to be the choice for the next pirate faction to receive ships, especially if they are Caldari/Minmatar.

So what about the ships? Shields are an obvious choice. For weapons... my first choice is projectiles. But that would be a lot like Angel ships. What about hybrids? Well, now were talking pretty much straight Caldari. Missiles? Just did that with Mordu's Legion. But its not off the table. And both factions use missiles. Wait a sec. An idea is forming...

Give web bonuses. Give missiles. Give active tanking bonuses. Make them brawlers. This is a nice contrast to Mordu's with their kiting style. Think Daredevil but with missiles and shields.

Why webs when so many pirate factions already get web bonuses? Do you really want them to have ECM bonuses? Admittedly, that would be very unique and powerful.

Seriously, these guys almost single-handedly crushed the Amarr Empire. This needs to be a thing.

I think Thukker would be interesting. Also, isn't the Gnosis an SOCT ship?

No we have enough pirate ships. Empire ships have gotten absolutely no love.

Why does it have to be pirate faction? Why not add navy spec-type ships for Ammatar that use lasers on minmatar hulls? Their selling point would be the mobility of minnie boats and shield tanking, with good capacitor and a tracking speed bonus on at least one of them. Basically like sansha lite, except more focus on mobility.

Also, another route you could go would be intaki syndicate ships. Again; while you could technically go with them being navy ships since they're not actually pirates, there's a lot of potential for what you could do with them.

They have 3 station systems in GW with a total of 4 stations, as well as stations in Derelik and Syndicate, Heimatar, Molden Heath and Metropolis. Their space borders Minmatar, Amarr, and Angel and Guristas space, not Caldari.



Not that I am aware of. Minmatar T2 production corps are Boundless Creations and Core Complexion Inc. Thukker only have these utterly useless skins.

Role bonus +300% to smartbomb damage and range.

I just want more Blood Raider ships and skins. Bloods are ******* awesome.

You forgot about "the Syndicate".

I made it OP for a reason- discussion always waters things down

And on the subject of EOM, did any of you know that their ships have a 'faction standing loss' stat?

The way it seems, it looks like the EOM is a faction in every way except that we literally can't see them as a faction in any lists.

Hmm... yeah, you're right. They don't have a Caldari border. GWL does link to Geminate. I think I had Etherium Reach on the mind for some reason.

I left out the Syndicate because it will obviously be partly Gallente. Last thing we need is another Gallente pirate faction. And we also already have Caldari/Amarr in Sanshas.