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Incoming Stealth Bomber nerf?

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Khema Fera
Doomheim
#21 - 2014-10-10 11:13:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Khema Fera
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Ban ISBoxers.

Bombers fixed. Mining Fixed. ISBoxer whine threads fixed.




Its like killing the Batman. Its simple and literally solves everything.

Had batman died, Gotham would have many dead people.
So yeah, killing the batman =/= good idea.

Also, why do people have ISBoxer so much? **** would reach insane prices without all the multiboxers.
Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-10-10 11:14:19 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Bombers are fine. Cloakies not decloaking one another is not. Nor ever was, when you get right down to it.

Bombers are OP. Cloakies not decloaking each other is fine, simply because you can't see what will decloak you so you cannot avoid it.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#23 - 2014-10-10 11:31:09 UTC
And next month when CFC is flying bomber fleets, you'll be complaining that they're too hard to fly and don't offer effective risk/reward or some nonsense like that.

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knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-10-10 11:36:34 UTC
Cebraio wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Bombers are fine. Cloakies not decloaking one another is not. Nor ever was, when you get right down to it.

Bombers are OP. Cloakies not decloaking each other is fine, simply because you can't see what will decloak you so you cannot avoid it.


You can. Bombers were fine until they changed the mechanics. It was still possible to have large bomber fleets that didn't decloak each other, it just took some semblance of skill to perform.
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2014-10-10 11:44:12 UTC
I could see a nerf to bomb damage and a fitting rebalance to make lesser used SB's more enticing. Maybe make bomb damage a role bonus.

Now if they really want to screw with people they'd give bombers a damage multiplier on rockets Big smile
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#26 - 2014-10-10 11:51:36 UTC
knobber Jobbler wrote:


You can. Bombers were fine until they changed the mechanics. It was still possible to have large bomber fleets that didn't decloak each other, it just took some semblance of skill to perform.

This. We don't ban the isboxer. We remove the thing that allows the isboxer to use bombers perfectly.
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#27 - 2014-10-10 13:02:13 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Ban ISBoxers.

Bombers fixed. Mining Fixed. ISBoxer whine threads fixed.




Its like killing the Batman. Its simple and literally solves everything.


those people dieing to isboxer can simply petition and get the ships back, incursion runners do it all the time because its said only 1 is the player and the rest are bots

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Notorious Fellon
#28 - 2014-10-10 13:22:32 UTC
Proximity should de-cloak.

Also, ban the use of command sharing/forking products like Isboxer. No one enjoys being on the receiving end of an automated, mindless alpha. At least require each ship to be human controlled.


Crime, it is not a "career", it is a lifestyle.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#29 - 2014-10-10 13:29:11 UTC
Agondray wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Ban ISBoxers.
Bombers fixed. Mining Fixed. ISBoxer whine threads fixed.
Its like killing the Batman. Its simple and literally solves everything.


those people dieing to isboxer can simply petition and get the ships back, incursion runners do it all the time because its said only 1 is the player and the rest are bots


Don't get the incursion part, but good luck trying to get your ship back after it got popped by something like 7 surprisingly coordinated purifiers.
Samwise Everquest
Plus 10 NV
#30 - 2014-10-10 13:40:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Samwise Everquest
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
It's simple.... we ban the ISBoxers.


ban the use of ISBoxer. so simple i am not sure why its still allowed.

Pras Phil.
Dave stark
#31 - 2014-10-10 13:43:51 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
It's simple.... we ban the ISBoxers.


And it removes a lot of issues in EVE.

When 5 guys can symphony slaughter 200 actual players the game becomes a poopsock. It's a form of botting and everyone knows it.


to be fair, if 200 guys decide to all sit within what, 15k of each other?

they kinda deserve to get aoe'd to ****.
Snakebyte Jack
AcT Legion
#32 - 2014-10-10 13:52:09 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Ocih wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
It's simple.... we ban the ISBoxers.


And it removes a lot of issues in EVE.

When 5 guys can symphony slaughter 200 actual players the game becomes a poopsock. It's a form of botting and everyone knows it.


to be fair, if 200 guys decide to all sit within what, 15k of each other?

they kinda deserve to get aoe'd to ****.



+1
Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#33 - 2014-10-10 13:55:40 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
O dear all those tears...how many of you have actually died to a bombing run in 0.0?


A bomber blew up my ship. Nerf bombers.

Nerf intercepters.

Nerf drones.

Nerf anything that can blow up my ship.

Moar tears.
Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#34 - 2014-10-10 13:57:57 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
And next month when CFC is flying bomber fleets, you'll be complaining that they're too hard to fly and don't offer effective risk/reward or some nonsense like that.


Then it will be nerf ishtars.
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2014-10-10 14:17:40 UTC
Aerakis Koskanaiken wrote:
I read that there may be/is a nerf bat somewhere ready to take a swing at bombers


Share the link where you read this please.
embrel
BamBam Inc.
#36 - 2014-10-10 14:20:47 UTC
Samwise Everquest wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
It's simple.... we ban the ISBoxers.


ban the use of ISBoxer. so simple i am not sure why its still allowed.


I'm quite sure it's because of more accounts that are paid for.

at least in the short run. Whether it leads to less paid accounts in the long run.... I'd guess so.
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#37 - 2014-10-10 14:44:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarod Garamonde
embrel wrote:
Samwise Everquest wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
It's simple.... we ban the ISBoxers.


ban the use of ISBoxer. so simple i am not sure why its still allowed.


I'm quite sure it's because of more accounts that are paid for.

at least in the short run. Whether it leads to less paid accounts in the long run.... I'd guess so.



CCP should be more concerned about QUALITY players.
I've been a loyal customer for years, and I only own two accounts at a time. Gara, and my "this year's alt until I get bored and sell it"..... although, to be honest, my current alt is the best-focused character I've ever owned, so I may never get rid of her.

ISBox players aren't quality.... they're using a cheap "I win button". Have you ever re-played an old game you used to enjoy with cheats enabled? It gets boring, fast.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2014-10-10 14:47:11 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:
bombers don't need a nerf, they need to have some its power moved from the front loading balance nightmare that bombs are, to a more sustained effect... maybe making bombs deal more damage, but deal it over time on an area instead of "BOOM fleet is gone".

or removing bombs completely, and giving torps fired from bombers AOE (the code is there), and allowing bombers to re-cloak even when targeted.

anything that will remove the insane alpha from bombs, while leaving bombers a viable deterrent to brainless blobs.

so basically, make the item used to counter blobs, useless against blobs because they wont outdamage the reps.

congratulations, nobel prize thinking right there.
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#39 - 2014-10-10 14:47:23 UTC
Plus, ISBoxer fleets make quality players not want to play.
By continuing to allow ISBoxers to do what they do, you're risking driving loyal players away from the game, in favor of a guy with 20 accounts who's just going to end up quitting when the next hot-ticket MMO goes live.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Dave stark
#40 - 2014-10-10 15:39:01 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Plus, ISBoxer fleets make quality players not want to play.

source, if you'd be so kind?