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Dev blog: Upcoming Forum changes - Phase 1 of 2

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Lurking one
Aksart Inc.
#61 - 2014-10-10 07:34:07 UTC
There will never be
* An [IMG] tag - no pics here
* Good karma system - current "likes only" system is pretty false and deceiving - anyone can get any number of likes for his main with his twinks (any alt will make this twice efficient)
* Any polls - we'll have to use likes as before
* Just a single "reply" button - instead of "post' button for a quick reply AND "reply" button right beside it, which opens a text editor
* The annoying warning of leaving eve-forums will not be removed
* Lettercount cap removed

Also, when I want to answer a person, I do not want to quote all his quotes, and the quotes that were quoted in those quotes (also, when we remember that this counts against our lettercap - the things are turning really grim). These cascade quotes are bad, and if I clean them manually, there will likely be a broken tag, so the post becomes totally illegible.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#62 - 2014-10-10 07:42:56 UTC
Oh, please add the ability to place a bounty on someone! And then fix bounties so they matter.

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Darkblad
Doomheim
#63 - 2014-10-10 07:45:38 UTC
Lurking one wrote:
There will never be
* An [IMG] tag - no pics here
* The annoying warning of leaving eve-forums will not be removed

For these two points - and many more convenient functionality, EVE Forums Gold already is a great Forum Enhancer
1. Embedded Images and videos with a button to show/hide
5. Just click a link and it opens without that warning.

Can't stop promoting it. Blink

NPEISDRIP

Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry
#64 - 2014-10-10 10:08:43 UTC
As a web developer I support this product and/or service Smile
Kruk Rollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2014-10-10 10:32:06 UTC
Hmmm...how about sorting results by date and whether its CCP member post?

If the forums continue to be the primary source of EVE documentation, this is essential to effective use of time.

As is its hard to find the MOST Current info on any topic given the 10+ years of forum data (not all online but way too much).

And random user comments (especially off topic comments) can bury relevant data.


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what would be even more valuable (but possibly impractical to implement) is a historical list of CCP topic authorities to automatically be applied to results.

(e.g. topic Missiles: CCP NewAuthority 6June2014-14:32:32 to current
CCP Fozzie 5November2011-00:01:01 to 6June2014-14:32:31
etc

Then when users search for rules on missiles resulting posts could limited to the most authoritative or at least those authorities highlighted over CCP posts where non-authorities on missiles may be commenting primarily on some other rule change and only using missiles in an example and perhaps not 100% correctly.)
Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
#66 - 2014-10-10 10:32:10 UTC
Hel O'Ween wrote:


While you're at it, could you also have a look at the annyoning "no HTML allow" for stuff within [ code ] tags? This is a real PITA when posting XML related stuff in the Tech Lab forum.

kthxbye


Oops

Derp ... scratch that, the forum doesn't even support [ code ] tags. But would be cool to have those to solve the above.

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Kruk Rollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2014-10-10 10:41:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Kruk Rollard
Zappity wrote:
Oh, please add the ability to place a bounty on someone! And then fix bounties so they matter.



Seems off topic. Though I agree bounties and kill rights are pretty meaningless for players only flying ships in high sec costing less than 20M-50M -- no matter how many Billions in damage they cause.

LOL - but seriously you might as well complain that EVE doesn't treat habitual criminals differently than single or low count rage violators. That penalties do not get more severe with number of illegal pod/ship kills (longer timers or steep cost to buy off security status).


Though I guess you are talking more about META-META gaming where you penalize (bounty) people for out of game forum comments. Nice REPUBLICAN idea to suppress freedom of speech with PAY to Participate (PLEX to ISK to bounty those whose opinion you hate) and only the elite players can discuss (assumption that bounties cannot be collected and ship not lost).

Nice profit center idea for CCP though in PLEX to bounty and then PLEX to replace ship losses. Each post could show bounties posted because of that post as well as character grand total. CCP could ante up a basic auto-bounty based on the character count of each post to get the bounties rolling. This would make some folk use fewer posts and words per post...which should increase blunt speaking and controversial oversimplifications thus increasing rage bounties for forum posts. Then there is all the revenge-feud bounties forum trash talk can create.

Yup do it - if that provides cash that CCP needs to keep EVE game rolling.
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HuGo87
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#68 - 2014-10-10 11:04:12 UTC
Why not use CommonMark, instead of simply Markdown for the signature editor (and maybe, optionally, for posts too!).
It's basically a standardized version of Markdown, you should definitely look into it.
Kruk Rollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2014-10-10 11:05:57 UTC
How fixing forum penalty for NEW accounts?
This character is about 18 months old. But since I haven't posted much I am restricted by "less than 2 days old".

Actually I am pretty sure I posted to forum for newbie and client help before using this toon. So there is just something broken here.

Why not just use API to pull account age?
Or character age if that is not possible.

If needed you could cache that on Logon or forum server for when forums are up but Tranquility and main DB servers are down. Update cached answer at first Forum login if API is up and use cache answer for all checks afterwards.
Dominique Vasilkovsky
#70 - 2014-10-10 12:22:28 UTC
So no chance of getting pictures back in the forum signatures then?
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#71 - 2014-10-10 12:57:20 UTC
This thread needs more people whining about CCP not fixing their broken game or the lag or something. What's happened to all the bad forum trolls?

In seriousness though, these changes sound cool. I'll all for a forum buff.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.

TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#72 - 2014-10-10 14:04:07 UTC
Andski wrote:
TigerXtrm wrote:
or trying to patch up some stone age version of what looks to be... phpbb?


It's this one: http://www.yetanotherforum.net/


Thanks. That clears that up.

Still, odd choice for a forum software if you ask me. You'd think a company like CCP could dish out the cash to buy a license for one of the better and more feature rich softwares out there.

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Mangala Solaris
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#73 - 2014-10-10 15:42:11 UTC
Improved mobile functionality is a must. Tapatalk integration for the forums at least would be better, but some form of minimalist pageview on mobile devices will be a good compromise.

Michael Mach
Arx One
#74 - 2014-10-10 15:46:22 UTC
Mangala Solaris wrote:
Improved mobile functionality is a must. Tapatalk integration for the forums at least would be better, but some form of minimalist pageview on mobile devices will be a good compromise.



Tapatalk? Disgusting.

RWD is the way to go, thank god CCP recognized that.
Marian Devers
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
#75 - 2014-10-10 16:07:02 UTC
Add a "Dislike" button. Especially for opening posts from CCP.
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#76 - 2014-10-10 16:10:09 UTC
The Eve Forums are dying! THE END IS NIGH! Twisted
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#77 - 2014-10-10 16:25:41 UTC
When comes the fix to the search function ... ie. when do we get a search function for the forum at all?

UI Improvement Collective

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Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#78 - 2014-10-10 16:50:44 UTC
While we're at, it, besides the "dislike" and "place bounty" button, it would be pretty awesome to have the "character notes" tab from ingame on the forums, too.
So with simple copy/paste you could add any poster's obnoxious posts to the notes and when you meet him ingame, you'd quickly know why this name sounds so awfully familiar and why you felt that uncontrollable urge to blow up his internet spaceship.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#79 - 2014-10-10 17:14:22 UTC  |  Edited by: DaReaper
Milla Goodpussy wrote:
wow this upcoming expansion is going to be awesome!.. forum fixes..

wow ccp you guys really put in a lot of work besides content patches you're fixing forums.

I assumed the post was regarding new code of conduct rules but hey that's just me. this forum patch will keep me playing for-ever despite the cruel rude trolling that runs rampant on it. thanks a lot ccp you took my suggestions seriously and avoided fixing the real problem... good day to you sir!



not sure if trolling/sarcastic, but I assume it is... so i'll respond with...

I do not think we want website developers, which are not the same as game developers, anywhere near the game. The forums are a part of stuff that needs to be fixed. They can't make changes to the game, so they do there job and fix the forums/website. So.. yea.

I find this stuff funny... "why are you wasting time fixing this when you need to fix this ccp!"

its like people think if you say "I work in the art department" or "I work in the web development department" that it measn they can program in whatever language the game is made in, so they should be doing that and if they are not its a waste of time and money.

That's the same thing as saying "Oh, you are a jet mechanic? Can you fix my car?" odds are no, no they can't. or "Oh your are chemical engineer? well I have this electrical issue I need an engineer for, can you fix it?" Again, no, no they can't.

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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#80 - 2014-10-10 17:57:56 UTC
Links to GM, ISD and CSM posts?

That's good news.

Remove standings and insurance.