Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This came to my mind during a civilized discussion in the Syndicate LP Store Buff thread and is also connected to my own Random Agents in Space Thread. Hard conditions and lack of activity is not only limited to regions like Syndicate or Great Wildlands, but also many areas in High sec and Low sec. This is mostly because people lack incentives to go there and do something or be able to make a living there. One way of doing exactly that is running missions. However, many systems in High sec and Low sec have absolutely no interesting agents in their systems. Take Ardishapur Prime or Mastakomon in High sec or Uemon or Getrenjesa in Low sec. Only four example, but there are numerous systems in High/Low sec where there's no way of making ISK properly, except for the occasional anomaly, signature or belt ratting. On the other hand, there are also systems where agents, especially the high class agents, are balled together.

What I would like to see is a system where Agents, especially the high class, move around systems slowly:

• Particularly popular agents would be moved to other locations to prevent corruption and bribery by all too eager capsuleers.
• Agents in 00 sec (particularly in case that CCP introduces missions to Sov 00) would move around to check various areas of space for either pirate activity or empire navy/Concord activity.


• Systems with little to no activity would receive visits of agents for a couple of days to conduct surveillance of the system for pirate or other illicit activity, or to oversee infrastructure projects.


• Incursion areas would attract mission agents in the surrounding constellations to keep an eye on pirates and other rouge elements who could exploit the nearby weakened Concord strength.
• Incursion areas in 00 Sec would attract pirate agents to keep a close eye on Sansha forces.


• Agents can also move around because of other reasons, like live events or lore events.

Benefits would be that people have to move around. Not in unbearably often manner, but every now and then a year/month, depending on the reason of the move.
Now less active systems and ares could be liven up a bit at least for a couple of days.
Currently useless systems would provide opportunities for players to have at least some way of making some money for some time.
Currently extremely active mission hubs would see a drop in action and players would disperse a bit more throughout systems.
The Agent Finder would have a purpose beyond finding the next Locator L4 agent. You would have to use it to find your preferred mission agent in case they moved.

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Another way to make people move in a meaningful and not stressful/overly regular manner, thanks to Kaarous:

I have to agree that agents should be depletable rather than mobile. Something like 2 storyline missions before depletion for x amount of time.

Provides some variation in location without needing to completely up root everything.

It can very well be a combination of both. In contemporary times, we have been made accustomed to be mobile and move with the jobs, agents in the game could behave in the same way by either do the checks of deserted systems or get reassigned by higher-ups. And if they have killed too many pirates for them, the pirates surely withdraw a bit and the agent can set a check on his clearance list and send the player to other systems.

The "uprooting" part shouldn't be a hindrance, as CCP requires other professions to move around a lot more and a lot more valuable stuff as well in order to get better benefits. Why should mission runners be excluded from that, especially as it puts their assets in space as well more often and for longer distances and provides more content for many other professions.

That's exactly what I said anyway.




That's the point, yeah. But spend some time in Osmon, tracking those guys that do it for six hours a day, and tell me that it's not sustainable.

You want to cripple EVE pve or something? Eventhough my Paladin got 0.20 AU more warp speed than regular BS's, it still takes a while to get around in it...

Not cripple, but make it more alive. CCP promotes EVE, among other things, as a living, breathing universe constantly in motion, yet the PVE agents as static as an atom at -273 °C. In my opinion, that is wrong and needs change.

In my vision, you don't need to move around on a daily basis all the time. Agent reassignment/agents moving around shouldn't exceed 12 times a year. Depleting pirate nests, depending on the number of killed rats in the area, not more than 3 times a month. You can now look for agents in nice spots in the universe, which are not overcrowded and run missions there for quite some time. Or you can stay in the crowded areas and receive some special storyline missions (you remember the missions in the SOE EA that sent you to another agent?) and continue hunting criminals there and who then maybe take longer to deplete as they are in priority need of capsuleers due to elevated pirate activity.

There could also be regular, non-FW agents, Sabotage agents who come into a certain empire/pirate space from another faction and offer missions exclusively against the local faction.

In total: Missions should not be static. Pirates move around, and so should agents to contain them. In addition,
all players should be required to move around more, not just one or two groups. People can still run all the missions they want from the same agents, but they have to follow them in case they are asked to police other areas of space.

+1 for moving
+1 for depleting

gets people to move around instead of sitting in their lvl4 system 23/7...

also lvl5 agents will be more accesable to smaller corps.

Your suggestion would be acceptable as long as you didn't know what type of agent will "spawn" in your station. You can get lucky and get another security lvl 4 or maybe you get a lvl 1 mining.

Not a bad idea.

To enlighten on this, (while stagnation is being tossed around more than your mom's drake), stagnation of agents led to what jita is. Having the move would probably spice up market hotspots. I would keep agents to their own relm of space though. You wouldn't want people who have -10 gallente standings and their agent poofs over to g-space.

Putting economic thought on this, limiting these blue collar jobs of shooting npc's for hire is bad for business. You have a bunch of construction workers that show up and shoot red crosses till the sun goes down with little interuption. I would suggest rather changing their location, they just deplete and refer you to another agent. Like a cool down after x many missions.

Why change it though? How much bear could a carebear bare if a carebear could care to bare?