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[Phoebe] Change to Interdictor Bubble and Station Mechanics

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JEFFRAIDER
THIGH GUYS
#61 - 2014-10-09 20:14:57 UTC
u could u know

camp them w/ a hic or a fleet

:)
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#62 - 2014-10-09 20:15:31 UTC
Nice :)

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Overlord Invictus
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#63 - 2014-10-09 20:17:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Overlord Invictus
Varesk wrote:
Overlord Invictus wrote:
Aram Kachaturian wrote:
Overlord Invictus wrote:
the mechanic as it currently stands is not broken, it actually promoted teamplay. but it seems fozzie wants Eve Online to not be a massive multiplayer online game, but a massive alt-iboxer online game.


I'm sorry bro, but it really looks like you are upset or at least tickled by those coming changes.

What's the matter?


explain to me plz how dropping a single bomb on the undock to clear a bubble for capitals to jump doesnt solve the issue of hobojamming without dev time and actually promotes teamplay, as opposed to this waste of dev-time?


You should have to use "Team Play" to camp an ALLIANCE in a station, not just 1 nerd running a macro. If you cannot do this, i suggest you "get more friends".


if you think hobojamming requires a macro, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

If you think 1 person hobojamming can camp 2 people in a station you're sadly mistaken.

take a bomber outside a station, cloak up within range of the undock, have your friend undock his capital and ctrl+space straight away. wait for the hobojammer to drop the bubble and dock up. launch the bomb at the bubble. when the bubble dies, jump the cap out. then see the hobo jammer undock wondering where the cap went.

its
that
f**king
simple.
JEFFRAIDER
THIGH GUYS
#64 - 2014-10-09 20:18:36 UTC
Overlord Invictus wrote:
Varesk wrote:
Overlord Invictus wrote:
Aram Kachaturian wrote:
Overlord Invictus wrote:
the mechanic as it currently stands is not broken, it actually promoted teamplay. but it seems fozzie wants Eve Online to not be a massive multiplayer online game, but a massive alt-iboxer online game.


I'm sorry bro, but it really looks like you are upset or at least tickled by those coming changes.

What's the matter?


explain to me plz how dropping a single bomb on the undock to clear a bubble for capitals to jump doesnt solve the issue of hobojamming without dev time and actually promotes teamplay, as opposed to this waste of dev-time?


You should have to use "Team Play" to camp an ALLIANCE in a station, not just 1 nerd running a macro. If you cannot do this, i suggest you "get more friends".


if you think hobojamming requires a macro, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

If you think 1 person hobojamming can camp 2 people in a station you're sadly mistaken.

take a bomber outside a station, cloak up within range of the undock, have your friend undock his capital and ctrl+space straight away. wait for the hobojammer to drop the bubble and dock up. launch the bomb at the bubble. when the bubble dies, jump the cap out. then see the hobo jammer undock wondering where the cap went.

its
that
f**king
simple.


and now u can't do it anymore

:)
Aram Kachaturian
Aram Pleasure Hub Holding
#65 - 2014-10-09 20:20:25 UTC
you
are
that
f**king
mad.

Come on man first you are disrespectful to CCP Fozzie and now you are insulting everyone in this thread.

Calm down.

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Porucznik Borewicz
GreenSwarm
#66 - 2014-10-09 20:22:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Porucznik Borewicz
JEFFRAIDER wrote:
and now u can't do it anymore

:)

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mr Oll
Zero Fun Allowed
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#67 - 2014-10-09 20:22:20 UTC
Don't know why you're getting so mad over this, you don't even hobojam well.
William Westmere
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#68 - 2014-10-09 20:23:53 UTC  |  Edited by: William Westmere
It was a risk-adverse mechanic, if you want to pin a cap group down bring a fleet or be more creative. You can tell it's a good change by all the mad in here, good man Fozzie.
Aram Kachaturian
Aram Pleasure Hub Holding
#69 - 2014-10-09 20:26:25 UTC
I will miss the word "hobojam" tho, it sounds so good

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Jean Luc Lemmont
Carebears on Fire
#70 - 2014-10-09 20:31:08 UTC
Aram Kachaturian wrote:
I will miss the word "hobojam" tho, it sounds so good



It sounds like what you find under a runaway street cleaner on Skid Row.

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Buzzsaw Blade
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#71 - 2014-10-09 20:34:02 UTC
Overlord Invictus wrote:
Varesk wrote:
Overlord Invictus wrote:
Aram Kachaturian wrote:
Overlord Invictus wrote:
the mechanic as it currently stands is not broken, it actually promoted teamplay. but it seems fozzie wants Eve Online to not be a massive multiplayer online game, but a massive alt-iboxer online game.


I'm sorry bro, but it really looks like you are upset or at least tickled by those coming changes.

What's the matter?


explain to me plz how dropping a single bomb on the undock to clear a bubble for capitals to jump doesnt solve the issue of hobojamming without dev time and actually promotes teamplay, as opposed to this waste of dev-time?


You should have to use "Team Play" to camp an ALLIANCE in a station, not just 1 nerd running a macro. If you cannot do this, i suggest you "get more friends".


if you think hobojamming requires a macro, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

If you think 1 person hobojamming can camp 2 people in a station you're sadly mistaken.

take a bomber outside a station, cloak up within range of the undock, have your friend undock his capital and ctrl+space straight away. wait for the hobojammer to drop the bubble and dock up. launch the bomb at the bubble. when the bubble dies, jump the cap out. then see the hobo jammer undock wondering where the cap went.

its
that
f**king
simple.




God this kid, go ahead unsub your accounts just do it quietly will ya? I can just imagine this guy in his mommys basement:

"Look at me mommy I drop a bubble and I dock up and it causes people grief. Weeeee!"

His mom: "Jr why don't you go outside and play with the other kids instead of blowing bubbles or whatever you're doing on that video game of yours"

Him: "But mommy the other kids beat me up so I have to sit here bubbling this station to cause people grief so I can get my revenge. Weeeeee!"

Anyway, unsub quietly will ya, 99.9% of us think this is a good fix to a clearly broken mechanic. And I am very sorry we've taking away your sole purpose in life.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#72 - 2014-10-09 20:43:24 UTC  |  Edited by: FT Diomedes
While I do generally detest docking games - and hobojamming was definitely a docking game - I'm not really happy with this change. Not least because I know it pissed off Pasta so much (hi guys!). That was actually the only reason I liked it. Such a surprise to see them gloating over this change.

But, I have to ask, where is the downside to living in a 0.0 NPC station now? You have complete security in 0.0 space and now it is much harder to interrupt your 90% AFK cloaking, 10% active hot dropping play style. It already required two characters paying attention - one watching outside the station and one to do the dictor work. At worst, it required you to plan how you were going to get capital ships out of the station (all other ships just had a slight delay burning out of the bubble).

So, where is the downside to NPC 0.0 stations? Perhaps station services should be very easy to disable and cost more to use? At the cost of an aggro timer, station guns, and standing to the NPC corp of course. You could have them automatically repair over time.

Or you could disallow docking unless you have neutral or better standing towards those NPC's? Why should the Blood Raiders ever let this character dock?

I get that 0.0 NPC space is supposed to be like 0.0 training wheels, but it should have some real disadvantages. You just took the biggest one away.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Dog0fWaRR
Phantom Troupe.
boo hoo fslur i don't care
#73 - 2014-10-09 20:44:43 UTC
Does this mean I can undock in K3J now? I've been trapped in here so long... I'm not sure if ill fit in the world outside... I hear it's different from the one I once knew....
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#74 - 2014-10-09 20:48:07 UTC  |  Edited by: FT Diomedes
Dog0fWaRR wrote:
Does this mean I can undock in K3J now? I've been trapped in here so long... I'm not sure if ill fit in the world outside... I hear it's different from the one I once knew....


I remember feeling the same way when Razor was staging in 6NJ and BL was doing the same to us. Funny how the world turns, isn't it?

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Aram Kachaturian
Aram Pleasure Hub Holding
#75 - 2014-10-09 20:53:59 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
While I do generally detest docking games - and hobojamming was definitely a docking game - I'm not really happy with this change. Not least because I know it pissed off Pasta so much (hi guys!). That was actually the only reason I liked it. Such a surprise to see them gloating over this change.

But, I have to ask, where is the downside to living in a 0.0 NPC station now? You have complete security in 0.0 space and now it is much harder to interrupt your 90% AFK cloaking, 10% active hot dropping play style. It already required two characters paying attention - one watching outside the station and one to do the dictor work. At worst, it required you to plan how you were going to get capital ships out of the station (all other ships just had a slight delay burning out of the bubble).

So, where is the downside to NPC 0.0 stations? Perhaps station services should be very easy to disable and cost more to use? At the cost of an aggro timer, station guns, and standing to the NPC corp of course. You could have them automatically repair over time.

Or you could disallow docking unless you have neutral or better standing towards those NPC's? Why should the Blood Raiders ever let this character dock?

I get that 0.0 NPC space is supposed to be like 0.0 training wheels, but it should have some real disadvantages. You just took the biggest one away.


Confirming that we are really mad about hobojamming.

Look into my eyes, see the rage.

There are a lot of downside to NPC 0.0 stations, but not in PR- because Pasta is living there.

You have sovs everywhere, whats the matter ? Why do you take time to camp PR-?

We dont afk cloak that much come on

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Capqu
Half Empty
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#76 - 2014-10-09 20:57:49 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:

I get that 0.0 NPC space is supposed to be like 0.0 training wheels,


RollRollRollRollRollRoll

the main disadvantage is enemies can dock in ur station too

which is pretty huge

come live with us in pr- if you think its so great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5tVbVu9Mkg
Crazy Candy
Zero Fun Allowed
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#77 - 2014-10-09 21:00:08 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
While I do generally detest docking games - and hobojamming was definitely a docking game - I'm not really happy with this change. Not least because I know it pissed off Pasta so much (hi guys!). That was actually the only reason I liked it. Such a surprise to see them gloating over this change.


>implying it doesn't take 5 seconds to burn out of the bubble

I'm really mad, trust me.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#78 - 2014-10-09 21:03:19 UTC
Overlord Invictus wrote:

plus, its not 'your' station, its everyones station. You'd be wise to remember that.


Holy ****. Hahahhaaha, you're actually a loony.
Hendrick Tallardar
Doomheim
#79 - 2014-10-09 21:06:54 UTC
We've already agreed that all stations belong to Jesus Christ.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#80 - 2014-10-09 21:21:30 UTC
Heh, it seems like that one particular change got exactly one dude very very mad.

CCP Fozzie - code sniper :)

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