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Acute Delirium
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#221 - 2011-12-13 05:31:33 UTC
*covers his eyes and ears*

kestrel, kestrel, kestrel, you're all wrong, kestrel, kestrel, kestrel!



Hmm, doesn't seem to be working. How do you do it, OP? Is there some secret technique I don't know of? I thought I was supposed to feel being logical and right. Don't bother answering, though, it's a rhetorical question.

kestrel!

Nah, still nothing.
Taiwanistan
#222 - 2011-12-13 05:33:50 UTC
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kestrels

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#223 - 2011-12-13 05:34:10 UTC
Vernn wrote:
So you're saying I need to kill them so much that they run out of kestrels
No. Largely because they're not using Kestrels.
Zions Child
Higashikata Industries
#224 - 2011-12-13 05:35:11 UTC
Twelve pages? This is great! I'm running out of popcorn!
Vernn
Winnguard
#225 - 2011-12-13 05:36:06 UTC
Acute Delirium wrote:
*covers his eyes and ears*

kestrel, kestrel, kestrel, you're all wrong, kestrel, kestrel, kestrel!



Hmm, doesn't seem to be working. How do you do it, OP? Is there some secret technique I don't know of? I thought I was supposed to feel being logical and right. Don't bother answering, though, it's a rhetorical question.

kestrel!

Nah, still nothing.


How about some risk vs. reward math......

2 Ice Harvesters roughly 3 million
1 Retriever roughly 5 million


Oh they pod you too so...

1 Clone roughly 3 million

So about 11 million I'm risking, and they are risking a 200k kestrel with some missile launchers on it. Lets just go nuts and call it a million isk.

11 to 1 my risk verse theirs
Vernn
Winnguard
#226 - 2011-12-13 05:37:07 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Vernn wrote:
So you're saying I need to kill them so much that they run out of kestrels
No. Largely because they're not using Kestrels.


Are you aware that you talk as if there is nothing you don't know?
Vernn
Winnguard
#227 - 2011-12-13 05:38:12 UTC
Zions Child wrote:
Twelve pages? This is great! I'm running out of popcorn!



Thanks man, its getting rough holding off the clowns, but I think I got at least another 5 pages in me. The fight for great justice must continue!
Vernn
Winnguard
#228 - 2011-12-13 05:39:20 UTC
Acute Delirium wrote:
*covers his eyes and ears*

kestrel, kestrel, kestrel, you're all wrong, kestrel, kestrel, kestrel!



Hmm, doesn't seem to be working. How do you do it, OP? Is there some secret technique I don't know of? I thought I was supposed to feel being logical and right. Don't bother answering, though, it's a rhetorical question.

kestrel!

Nah, still nothing.



Ok from now on it will be..........................................


200k ISK ship
Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#229 - 2011-12-13 05:39:44 UTC
If I knew pubbies would get this mad about kestrels I would have started using them months ago. Who was the brave Goon hero who protected the blue ice with a kestrel?
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#230 - 2011-12-13 05:40:12 UTC
Edit: I should be nicer...
Vernn
Winnguard
#231 - 2011-12-13 05:41:31 UTC
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
If I knew pubbies would get this mad about kestrels I would have started using them months ago. Who was the brave Goon hero who protected the blue ice with a kestrel?


Yes, please clown, enlighten us with your 200k ISK ship choice.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#232 - 2011-12-13 05:41:59 UTC
Vernn wrote:
How about some risk vs. reward math......

2 Ice Harvesters roughly 3 million
1 Retriever roughly 5 million


Oh they pod you too so...

1 Clone roughly 3 million

So about 11 million I'm risking, and they are risking a 200k kestrel with some missile launchers on it. Lets just go nuts and call it a million isk.

11 to 1 my risk verse theirs
Ok. With that Retriever, against that Kestrel, your probability of death is ~0%, so your risk is 11M×0 = 0.
Their probability of death is 100%, so their risk is 200k × 1 = 200k ISK.

So what's the problem again?
Bubanni
Corus Aerospace
#233 - 2011-12-13 05:42:49 UTC
:) did you get ganked by us on your main? trolololol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqc2gj_G2zY

Supercap nerf - change ewar immunity https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=194759 Module activation delay! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1180934
Vernn
Winnguard
#234 - 2011-12-13 05:42:59 UTC
Oh, and for the record, if they were suicide ganking me with 6 million ISK ships, this post wouldn't exist. I would be totally fine with that. You wanna control something, then pay the price.
Acute Delirium
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#235 - 2011-12-13 05:45:52 UTC
Vernn wrote:
How about some risk vs. reward math......

2 Ice Harvesters roughly 3 million
1 Retriever roughly 5 million


Oh they pod you too so...

1 Clone roughly 3 million

So about 11 million I'm risking, and they are risking a 200k kestrel with some missile launchers on it. Lets just go nuts and call it a million isk.

11 to 1 my risk verse theirs


Oh they pod you, do they? I get it now, you're mining AFK.

I'm not going to touch the rest, because, to paraphrase you, "you talk like there's nothing you DO know".
Vernn
Winnguard
#236 - 2011-12-13 05:46:02 UTC
Bubanni wrote:
:) did you get ganked by us on your main? trolololol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqc2gj_G2zY



Thank you for that. I need more exhibits supporting my claim that you guys are griefers.


Wikipedia entry for griefer....

Quote:
A griefer is a player who does things in a game to deliberately cause annoyance ("grief" in the sense of "giving someone grief") for the griefer's own enjoyment. Such a player is a particular nuisance in online gaming communities, since griefers often cannot be deterred by penalties related to in-game goals.



Now, going by what he just posted, is he a griefer?
Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#237 - 2011-12-13 05:46:09 UTC
Vernn wrote:
Skunk Gracklaw wrote:
If I knew pubbies would get this mad about kestrels I would have started using them months ago. Who was the brave Goon hero who protected the blue ice with a kestrel?


Yes, please clown, enlighten us with your 200k ISK ship choice.

Nobody is using kestrels. Personally, I use a thorax for untanked mackinaws and any of the lesser exhumers/barges, a brutix for tanked mackinaws and untanked Hulks, and a Tempest for tanked hulks.

CCP caved in to the whiners and nerfed insurance but luckily for me (and Gallente ice) my alliance now provides the insurance payout plus a bounty for every criminal miner I blow up.
Vernn
Winnguard
#238 - 2011-12-13 05:47:18 UTC
Acute Delirium wrote:
Vernn wrote:
How about some risk vs. reward math......

2 Ice Harvesters roughly 3 million
1 Retriever roughly 5 million


Oh they pod you too so...

1 Clone roughly 3 million

So about 11 million I'm risking, and they are risking a 200k kestrel with some missile launchers on it. Lets just go nuts and call it a million isk.

11 to 1 my risk verse theirs


Oh they pod you, do they? I get it now, you're mining AFK.

I'm not going to touch the rest, because, to paraphrase you, "you talk like there's nothing you DO know".


Nope, first time I just had one of those "what the hell is going on" moments and couldn't click warp out fast enough. Second time I got away before he could pop me, but he was trying.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#239 - 2011-12-13 05:48:01 UTC
Kestral wins to Ret = Unfair.

Try Isotope hotdrop wins to everything, how fair is that.

The irony being, drone regions have blue ice if I'm not mistaken. Deklien has white so goons are actually making thier "enemy" pretty rich. Makes you wonder.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#240 - 2011-12-13 05:51:34 UTC
Vernn wrote:
Now, going by what he just posted, is he a griefer?
Nope.
But it sure disproves your previous claims of what was needed and not.