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Khema Fera
Doomheim
#21 - 2014-10-09 13:27:59 UTC
Lol
IB4L (discussion of moderation).
If you want more content, how about you ask in the F&I forums. Also, Mordus ships, burner missions, burner logi missions (are they out yet?)
Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#22 - 2014-10-09 13:39:45 UTC
Misty Allure wrote:
Cebraio wrote:
Misty Allure wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Misty Allure wrote:
I was actually just talking with a colleague about how I seriously don't know what the staff at CCP are doing with their time, what makes it even stranger is that content for Eve doesn't even seem like it requires much effort to produce. Some basic 3D modelling and some simple scripting would at least give us a change of scenery.
Are you and your colleague mmo developers ?

No, but you don't need to be a plumber to know that it doesn't take 6 months to fit a bathroom.

Because changing (10 year old) MMO code without braking everything, is as easy as fitting a bathroom.

Some new environments, station models, anomalies or missions isn't re-writing Eve's backend. I'm talking about simple content. Go save the Damsell in distress for the 1,000,000th time why don't you?

Everybody who is new to game development wants to make an MMO. And almost all of them fail spectacularly. It's easy enough to criticize the direction CCP takes in development when you really don't know the smallest part of what it takes to run and maintain an MMO.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#23 - 2014-10-09 13:39:56 UTC
Misty Allure wrote:
Cebraio wrote:
Misty Allure wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Misty Allure wrote:
I was actually just talking with a colleague about how I seriously don't know what the staff at CCP are doing with their time, what makes it even stranger is that content for Eve doesn't even seem like it requires much effort to produce. Some basic 3D modelling and some simple scripting would at least give us a change of scenery.
Are you and your colleague mmo developers ?

No, but you don't need to be a plumber to know that it doesn't take 6 months to fit a bathroom.

Because changing (10 year old) MMO code without braking everything, is as easy as fitting a bathroom.

Some new environments, station models, anomalies or missions isn't re-writing Eve's backend. I'm talking about simple content. Go save the Damsell in distress for the 1,000,000th time why don't you?

Ah see , they have though.
Industry, jump drive & clone, the new rendering engine(which is a step closer to ship painting).

There are massive changes going on right now.

If you don't know where the content in eve is , you're it.

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Balshem Rozenzweig
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2014-10-09 13:39:59 UTC
I've lost faith in humanity because of forums.eveonline.com

I don't hold it against the page.

(btw - EVE forums is the only thing doing Jerry Springer better than Jerry Springer himself)

"NUTS!!!" - general McAuliffe
Neutrino Sunset
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2014-10-09 13:52:10 UTC
Cebraio wrote:
Played since 2003, took a break in 2005, came back and still enjoy this game of spaceships. If you can't see how this game has changed and improved over time, you haven't looked very closely.

Also, forum threads are often closed because they contain no content, just like your OP.
Didn't say it hasn't changed ever, said nothing of consequence has changed since ~2011.
OP contains my opinion, you don't like it, tough.

corebloodbrothers wrote:
I am curious if the forums used to be a place of peace and love before 2011, when u quit
Nope, was always a cesspit. But at least it was a cesspit you could participate in without entire pages of threads getting locked. Like another poster today commented, CAOD used to be a vibrant cesspit, now its just a dead cesspit.

Khema Fera wrote:
IB4L (discussion of moderation).
No one's talking about moderation here.

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Here's a specific example of the lack of development.

Shortcut keys. In a fast paced combat game you think they'd be pretty important right? Flying a frigate at 5kms you can't be spending time navigating through nested context menus to find commands like Orbit At Current can you? Except you have to because 11 years on there is still no shortcut for Orbit At Current.

Shortcut keys in Eve are downright terrible. They either don't activate at all unless the right bit of the UI has focus (when the focus is almost invisible and switches between controls by itself), or they require a hand cramping combination of key control modifiers, or for some of the most basic flight controls they don't even exist at all.

I've been playing a bit of Dota 2 over the last month or so. Its UI isn't perfect by any means but you can at least custom bind almost any action or macro to whatever keybinding you want, which is hugely liberating compared to Eve's UI, and that's a game that's just a couple of years old and which is FTP. Call me demanding but I expect more from a premium subscription game like Eve and these last few years it doesn't feel like I've been getting it.

Last time I checked Overview tabs still don't even remember their individual sort order, another example of 5 year old stuff still only half implemented.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#26 - 2014-10-09 13:52:18 UTC
Balshem Rozenzweig wrote:
I've lost faith in humanity because of forums.eveonline.com

I don't hold it against the page.

(btw - EVE forums is the only thing doing Jerry Springer better than Jerry Springer himself)

Compared to other games forums this place is a paragon of good posting and enlightened, civil discussion about engaging topics.

Go to the bf 4 forums , here's something for you.
The "Hooah" function is the same as our like button.
Quote:

Hey everyone,

While we want to encourage everyone to show their approval or agreement by using the "hooah" button, spamming someone by "hooahing" their entire feed is not allowed.

Why?
Per the EA Terms of Service, Section 11, you're in violation if you "harass, threaten, embarrass, spam or do anything else to another player that is unwanted, such as repeatedly sending unwanted messages", which would include "hooah" spamming.

"Hooah" spamming is generally done to annoy, harass or even intimidate another user, and this type of conduct is not welcome on Battlelog.


If found to be harassing others by "hooah" spamming, you will be temporarily removed from the Battlelog Community.
If you're getting spammed, please report the user to our TOS team by clicking the ! on their profile and contact a moderator/admin (do not publicly Name & Shame though).


Thanks!

/Battlelog Community Staff

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Jean Luc Lemmont
Carebears on Fire
#27 - 2014-10-09 14:00:46 UTC
The forum of any gamining community is generally pretty terrible, full of frothing neckbeards sperging on about how the devs are killing their playstyle and why their style of play is the only right way to play the game and everyone else should just have to suffer with it.

They are generally full of the sort of people that put the "fun" in the word dysfunctional.

Will I get banned for boxing!?!?!

This thread has degenerated to the point it's become like two bald men fighting over a comb. -- Doc Fury

It's bonuses, not boni, you cretins.
Jean Luc Lemmont
Carebears on Fire
#28 - 2014-10-09 14:04:12 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:

Go to the bf 4 forums , here's something for you.
The "Hooah" function is the same as our like button.
Quote:

Hey everyone,

While we want to encourage everyone to show their approval or agreement by using the "hooah" button, spamming someone by "hooahing" their entire feed is not allowed.

Why?
Per the EA Terms of Service, Section 11, you're in violation if you "harass, threaten, embarrass, spam or do anything else to another player that is unwanted, such as repeatedly sending unwanted messages", which would include "hooah" spamming.

"Hooah" spamming is generally done to annoy, harass or even intimidate another user, and this type of conduct is not welcome on Battlelog.


If found to be harassing others by "hooah" spamming, you will be temporarily removed from the Battlelog Community.
If you're getting spammed, please report the user to our TOS team by clicking the ! on their profile and contact a moderator/admin (do not publicly Name & Shame though).


Thanks!

/Battlelog Community Staff


Wait...wat?
So liking someone's post can be considered harrassing them? I...holy flying **** monkeys. I have no words. None. The **** monkeys took them.

Will I get banned for boxing!?!?!

This thread has degenerated to the point it's become like two bald men fighting over a comb. -- Doc Fury

It's bonuses, not boni, you cretins.
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-10-09 14:04:34 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
-snippit-
Quote:

Per the EA Terms of Service, Section 11, you're in violation if you "harass, threaten, embarrass, spam or do anything else to another player that is unwanted, such as repeatedly sending unwanted messages", which would include "hooah" spamming.

"Hooah" spamming is generally done to annoy, harass or even intimidate another user, and this type of conduct is not welcome on Battlelog.

I too am often intimidated by all the "likes" I get.

IamofcoursekiddingpleasedontstoplikingmypostsIneedthemtomeasuremyselfworth!

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#30 - 2014-10-09 14:05:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:

Compared to other games forums this place is a paragon of good posting and enlightened, civil discussion about engaging topics.


I get the general feeling that the people who think of this forum as some kind of cesspit are the same people who don't play other games or visit other forums (or have ever used facebook or twitter...or visited a Kindergarten playground in the inner city). I've experienced quite a few (official and unofficial) for other games and this one is hands down the most tame I've ever seen.

I am constantly surprised by the incredible over-sensitivity displayed by many posters I've met here. Especially given the nature of the game these forums are centered around. I get the feeling that many of those posters wouldn't last 5 minutes in my neighborhood.
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2014-10-09 14:10:13 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:

Compared to other games forums this place is a paragon of good posting and enlightened, civil discussion about engaging topics.


I get the general feeling that the people who think of this forum as some kind of cesspit are the same people who don't play other games or visit other forums (or have ever used facebook or twitter...or visited a Kindergarten playground in the inner city0. I've experienced quite a few (official and unofficial) for other games and this one is hands down the most tame I've ever seen.

I am constantly surprised by the incredible over-sensitivity displayed by many posters I've met here. Especially given the nature of the game these forums are centered around. I get the feeling that many of those posters wouldn't last 5 minutes in my neighborhood.


Not to mention the people complaining about ISD, not to brownnose here but as far as forum moderation goes, you can do ALOT worse than our ISD.

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Misty Allure
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-10-09 14:12:39 UTC
Quote:

Here's a specific example of the lack of development.

Shortcut keys. In a fast paced combat game you think they'd be pretty important right? Flying a frigate at 5kms you can't be spending time navigating through nested context menus to find commands like Orbit At Current can you? Except you have to because 11 years on there is still no shortcut for Orbit At Current.

Shortcut keys in Eve are downright terrible. They either don't activate at all unless the right bit of the UI has focus (when the focus is almost invisible and switches between controls by itself), or they require a hand cramping combination of key control modifiers, or for some of the most basic flight controls they don't even exist at all.

I've been playing a bit of Dota 2 over the last month or so. Its UI isn't perfect by any means but you can at least custom bind almost any action or macro to whatever keybinding you want, which is hugely liberating compared to Eve's UI, and that's a game that's just a couple of years old and which is FTP. Call me demanding but I expect more from a premium subscription game like Eve and these last few years it doesn't feel like I've been getting it.

Last time I checked Overview tabs still don't even remember their individual sort order, another example of 5 year old stuff still only half implemented.

No, but you see this is entirely acceptable because Eve is built on 10 year old code and you aren't a programmer so how can you expect CCP to make regular basic updates to their game.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#33 - 2014-10-09 14:21:17 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:


I am constantly surprised by the incredible over-sensitivity displayed by many posters I've met here.


You're one of the most abrasive personalities posting here and you are surprised some take offense to you? Honey, it's not because they are oversensitive. It's because you are a douche.

Mr Epeen Cool
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#34 - 2014-10-09 14:22:50 UTC
Misty Allure wrote:

No, but you see this is entirely acceptable because Eve is built on 10 year old code and you aren't a programmer so how can you expect CCP to make regular basic updates to their game.

They do though , burners , the dscan , ship rebalancing, have you seen the latest dev blog (bookmarks yeah! \o/).

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#35 - 2014-10-09 14:26:28 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:


I am constantly surprised by the incredible over-sensitivity displayed by many posters I've met here.


You're one of the most abrasive personalities posting here and you are surprised some take offense to you? Honey, it's not because they are oversensitive. It's because you are a douche.

Mr EpeenCool


Perfect example of the kind of poster I'm talking about right here (complete with totally appropriate screen name). It seems some people can't handle blunt truth or not being coddled. Perhaps an s behind the r in your screen name would be even more appropriate hashtag OversensitiveWomanlikePoster?
Kousaka Otsu Shigure
#36 - 2014-10-09 14:41:49 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:


I am constantly surprised by the incredible over-sensitivity displayed by many posters I've met here.


You're one of the most abrasive personalities posting here and you are surprised some take offense to you? Honey, it's not because they are oversensitive. It's because you are a douche.

Mr Epeen Cool


+1

Would Like again.

Jenn aSide wrote:
Perfect example of the kind of poster I'm talking about right here (complete with totally appropriate screen name). It seems some people can't handle blunt truth or not being coddled. Perhaps an s behind the r in your screen name would be even more appropriate hashtag OversensitiveWomanlikePoster?

Jenn aSide wrote:
It seems some people can't handle blunt truth


LOOOOOOOL

Ahahaha.... wait wait... catching my breath..

AHHAHAHAAHAHA!!!

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Current Project Status: What can I make with these minerals?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#37 - 2014-10-09 14:56:22 UTC
Solecist Project
#38 - 2014-10-09 15:00:55 UTC
Mr. Epeen is right .....
... the hate of GD has infected Jenn as well.

Not that she will ever realise.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#39 - 2014-10-09 15:04:00 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Mr. Epeen is right .....
...


Bookmark this post Epeen, this is the only time another human being will say these words to you!
Solecist Project
#40 - 2014-10-09 15:07:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Jenn aSide wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Mr. Epeen is right .....
...


Bookmark this post Epeen, this is the only time another human being will say these words to you!

Thank you for proving me right, Jenn.

This isn't even funny. You have turned into a bitter person
and that's rather sad. You too, like all the others who are infected,
do not realise how much of an ******* you have become.

And telling you is no use, because instead of a conscious, reflecting thought,
you just respond with absolutely predictable patterns.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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