Missions & Complexes

Will my ship just stay there until it explodes? or will it warp out after xxxx amount of time?

In theory, unless CCP changed something, the regular NPC scram/disrupt does not hinder the E-Warp that your ship will initiate upon losing connection. However, if you get stuck on something or are otherwise mal-aligned, you will not warp. You will however re-warp back into the pocket upon logging back in.

Also, there was an issue with bastion, where your ship would only make one attempt to leave, so if you were in bastion, you'd be stuck with your tank essentially 'off'. I believe CCP has since rectified this by having the ship make repeated attempts to get out, so when bastion ends it's cycle, you would warp.

However, i have not tested this theory, as the only way is to put said shiney into harms way.

The timers are not how long before the e-warp, but how long the ship sits at the new location before it disappears. Able to be scanned out and subsequently destroyed.

Well, if the ship automatically goes into warp when the client loses connection to the server then the NPC timer doesn't mean anything in high sec, especially if NPC scram/disrupt doesn't affect the E-Warp.

The NPC's definitely aren't going to chase you in high sec and the chance of another player scanning you down to do combat is very small.

Given the choice between staying in the NPC pocket resulting in ship loss verses logging out and maybe lose the ship to player action, I'll take the log out option every time. Besides that, after a minute can just log back in and be in ship as it's warping back to the mission location. If it's a gated mission site, won't even see any NPC's and can just warp to a station for repairs.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the entire mechanics governing this but it seems to me that would pretty much negate CCP's attempt to stop players from using the log out option to save their ship.

Gotta say I'm confused. Definitely need some clarification on this.



DMC

On disconnect following happens:

a) all your highslots turn off, medium slots and low slots continue running until you disappear from space, die or cap out
b) your ship initiates e-warp, if you are scrammed/disrupted by something or if you are in bastion, bad news, you are not going anywhere

bI) there is some strange behavior regarding bastion where sometimes it stays on whole time (doesn't turn off like rest of highslot modules), sometimes you do get e-warp after bastion cycle has ended, etc... so whole bastion thingy is still unclear, but rest of the rules stand.

I've been meaning to test that, but I accidentally +5 to -10

at some point you do disappear though as I found out when I had a mission 90% cleared but still came back in hull. Now I just run a medium deadspace rep as they are pretty dang cheap, and tank far more than enough with bastion. and haven't had an issue since, but I don't think I had a serious DC in that time frame either.

Yeah something just doesn't seem right to me. I thought the whole purpose of the log out timers was to stop people from using log off as a way to save their ship from being destroyed.

Guess from all the replies here the actual purpose of those timers is to allow a chance for PvP action to continue, mainly for low / null sec and War Targets active in high sec.

Now if NPC warp scram has no affect on E-warp, then that 5 minute NPC timer is useless, especially if the mid and low slot modules stay active for the duration of the log off timer until the ship disappears from grid.

The NPC timer definitely won't stop players from using the log out option to save their ship from being destroyed by NPC's and as I said before, the chance of someone probing their ship down within the 5 minute timer to do combat is very small, especially in high sec with Concord active.

Makes me wonder if the character of the disconnected player still shows as active in local chat for the duration of those timers??



DMC

Yes

If the player is logging off to escape death when seeing another player coming in his/her mission/DED plex to attack his/her ship, maybe the fact that your ship has been probed down already should be considered, so probing a logged off and NPC or PVP agroed ship will take no time at all. This includes your pod.

I know.


No, character disappears from Local, that's how you know he actually logged off.

I lost a machariel last week to a disconnect because I was scrammed. I had a cap stable tank but it was a minimal tank (because mach speed tanks), logged back in still scrammed and in hull, couldn't save the ship. A damage control would have save me.

Replacement machariel hss damage control on. I got sloppy after 7 years of missioning and paid for it.

If you are warp disrupted by an NPC or player, you do not e-warp.