Ships & Modules

I was wondering what is the best ship type for pvp, a battlecruiser or battleship, or something else even? I'd like something that is good with tanking. Maybe even give me specific ships to look into. And what are the modules that help you tank?

Also can someone explain active tanking and buffer tanking to me and the differences.

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This is more or less for PVP :

Active Tank : Armor Repair modules. Shield boosters.
Buffer : No active repair modules like stated above but a f*ck ton of Hitpoints and good resistances.
Passive : Shield tanks with good resistances and the best possible shield recharge rate/buffer mix. (PVE)
Usualy they are fit to require 0 cap. therefore valid for lvl5 mission tanking but pretty useless for pvp

There are also some special snowflakey things like sig tanking/kiting but you are better off googling that.


There are many fits for many different ships out there but here are some basic examples to give you an idea on how the different styles are usualy fit.

active tanked ships :

[Myrmidon, Triple Rep]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

10MN Microwarpdrive II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Scrambler II

Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, EMP M

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

[Hawk, DUAL ASB]
Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor II

Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 50
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 50
1MN Afterburner II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II

Buffer tanked ships :

[Hurricane, Armor Buffer]
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

Vespa EC-600 x1
Hornet EC-300 x4


[Drake, HAM]
Power Diagnostic System II
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Acolyte II x5

Passive :

[Nighthawk, KINTHERM LVL5]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Improved Cloaking Device II
Drone Link Augmentor II

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II

Hobgoblin II x5

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In summary :

Active tanking ( armor ) : requires armor repair modules and cap boosters. armor damaged is repaired in bursts to manage cap.

Active tanking ( shield ) : todays best practice is ASB's. Cap booster feeded shield boosters. used to repair shield damage in bursts to manage the amount of cap booster charges left. It is also possible to fit a cap booster and standard shield booster which is much harder to manage but can be more efficient.

Buffer tanking : good resistances and a good amount of hitpoints.

passive tanking : good resistances, decent hitpoints and high recharge rate.


~ Hope that wasn't TL'DR and helps understand what the different tanking styles are about.

Did you take the hint or do they have to keep bringing it up?

If you head right for battleships and head out to low or null you'll probably regret it. T1 battleships are fairly weak right now, blops are effective, but they're SP intensive and are getting a de-facto nerf soon, and marauders can be powerful in certain situations, though they've very vulnerable to being hot-dropped and neuts. Battlecruisers are very slow in a speed intensive meta. You'll find that right now, mobility and range are the kings of the battlefield.

If you're interested in pvp, start small and cheap. Join a corporation that will help furnish you with cheap ships and teach you how to pvp. Build a skill plan, or use someone else's skill plan. Even tech one frigates fitted with tech one modules are useful.

A few good corps/alliances to join:

Brave newbies: They live in null now and offer free skillbooks, cheap ships, and a LOT of content. The only issue here is that there isn't a lot of other stuff going on in null right now, so they get messed with quite a bit.

E-UNI: Similar to BNI. They offer an extensive database of knowledge dedicated to teaching players from day one to bitter vet.

Red vs Blue: These guys offer eternal high-sec chaos, combined ops, and over-all fun.

Feel free to eve mail me if you have questions.

EDIT: As far as suggestions of specific ships go I have a few favorites ill share. I particularly love the ancillary rep enyo and dual rep ishkur. They both have a wide engagement profile for comparatively few SP and isk. 1600 plate vexors are a blast, too. I've also had fun with dual large ASB cerbs fitted with RLMLs. They're very tough and CRUSH frigates, destroyers, and kitey cruisers. Dual web autocannon ruptures make short work of fast tackle, and are pretty tough to boot. A trick I've been using lately is to keep a mobile depot and an armor repper in my buffer tanked ships, so that if I survive an encounter, I can repair and be ready for the next one.

maybe train up for heavy assault cruisers? cruiser hulls with (most) massive tank, good agility, bc/bs dps (if brawler fit), good speed with a bonus to mwd sig radius...

they are pretty much baby battleships, with non of the disadvantages - besides raw hp - and lots of stats that are way better then bc/bs lvl and they are about as 'cheap' as t1 bs hulls