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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#141 - 2011-12-13 04:45:08 UTC
Vernn wrote:
Retriever.
And so we have found the source of your problem.

Well… one of the many many sources.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#142 - 2011-12-13 04:45:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Corina Jarr
Vernn wrote:
Corina wants me to fight off a suicide ganker that warps right on top of me and opens fire a second later with....................



drones




Please, lets stay in the realm of the practical here.

Actually I want you to learn to play. Stay aligned and warp off when you see someone possibly a threat warping in. You have plenty of time if you are at 75% speed, and all it takes is a couple of BMs and some non-afk mining.


Oh god your mining in a ret?

Don't use a ret for ice, its ridiculously inefficient. Better of HS belt ratting.
Taiwanistan
#143 - 2011-12-13 04:46:16 UTC
Vernn wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Vernn wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Vernn wrote:
I CAN GO ANYWHERE AND DO ANYTHING AND THEY CAN KEEP DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING? Anywhere I go except a station. Anywhere in space they can do it.

Mining ice in Caldari, Minmatar, and Amarr space is currently legal. Go forth and mine ice to your heart's content.



Or else you'll come get me in your.................................


kestrel


Game of the year right here people!



TBH, a kestrel shoulShocked... wait, you're not mining in a completely un-tanked retriever are you?Lol


Retriever. I crunched the numbers. Wouldn't matter what I put on it. I'd be toast.


posting is your only defense

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#144 - 2011-12-13 04:46:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Akita T wrote:
When your security status gets low enough and you enter a system too high in security rating compared to your negative security status, TWO things of note happen :
(1) the NAVY of the sovereign faction will attack you (same as it happens with enemy militia players)
*** in the SPECIAL CASE EXCEPTION when you do that in a system where CONCORD has sov, then you WILL get CONCORDOKKENED, but otherwise it's just navy ships - annoying but avoidable, killable, tankable
and
(2) OTHER PLAYERS CAN SHOOT AT YOU WHENEVER THEY DAMN WELL PLEASE without getting CONCORDOKKENED themselves.



Q< If i kill outlaw do he get an kill right afterwards ?

If so, isnt killing the outlaw actuall punishment for the one who shot it ?
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#145 - 2011-12-13 04:46:24 UTC
Vernn wrote:
If I go into an ice belt in a barge to mine, I can get ganked repeatedly by someone with a -10 security status?

Someone who is supposed to be insta killed by concord can somehow warp to me and kill me over and over again in practically free ships?

I have no problem whatsoever with being ganked, so long as they take the security hit, and after several times concord instagibs them. Keeps the game fun having to pay attention for stuff like that.

However are you seriously telling me that this game has come to the point where I can lose multimillion isk ships in high sec to someone who has -10 sec rating over and over again?

Really?


*stunned*


Do what they want you to do, leave. Unlike the zealots who troll you, you're not married to EVE. This game now averages 20-25K online with mediocre spikes. CCP know 8 year old games never recover from that. The xenophobes on the forums don't but you see the "bread and butter" of EVE.

Go play test server untill your account runs out, then try another game. Give it 3 or 4 months you will get a 5 day free return or a $5 killmail from CCP. I know you are pissed but trust me, once you get away for a few months it all seems far less frustrating and all rather pathetic.

GL
Vernn
Winnguard
#146 - 2011-12-13 04:48:01 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:

I prefer to use a Brutix because they are classier. What really gets me hot, though, is the new tier 3 battlecruisers...battleship level DPS for a fraction of the battleship's price! My massive thighs are literally quaking with excitement



You're telling me thats not a griefer?


"My massive thighs are literally quaking with excitement"


Yeah, he sounds like he is trying to make progress in the game.

I've known probably 100 clowns just like this guy and his buddies in other games. All they wanna do is upset the status quo no matter what they have to do to do it. They don't care what happens to anyone. They aren't concerned with the integrity of the game. They just want to cause the maximum amount of grief with the least amount of effort.

They are griefers. That is what they do.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#147 - 2011-12-13 04:48:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Q< If i kill outlaw do he get an kill right afterwards ?

If so, isnt killing the outlaw actuall punishment for the one who shot it ?
No. As an outlaw, he's a legal target.

Kill rights are only handed out to illegal targets who are killed in (unresisted) attacks.
Vernn wrote:
You're telling me thats not a griefer?

"My massive thighs are literally quaking with excitement"

Yeah, he sounds like he is trying to make progress in the game.
Sounds like he's looking forward to using a shiny new toy that will make his activity a bit more varied and fun. So no, as much as the goons like to paint themselves as griefers, they're just your average horrible-at-EVE players and fail at griefing as much as at everything else. Blink
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#148 - 2011-12-13 04:48:27 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Vernn wrote:
If I go into an ice belt in a barge to mine, I can get ganked repeatedly by someone with a -10 security status?

Someone who is supposed to be insta killed by concord can somehow warp to me and kill me over and over again in practically free ships?

I have no problem whatsoever with being ganked, so long as they take the security hit, and after several times concord instagibs them. Keeps the game fun having to pay attention for stuff like that.

However are you seriously telling me that this game has come to the point where I can lose multimillion isk ships in high sec to someone who has -10 sec rating over and over again?

Really?


*stunned*


Do what they want you to do, leave. Unlike the zealots who troll you, you're not married to EVE. This game now averages 20-25K online with mediocre spikes. CCP know 8 year old games never recover from that. The xenophobes on the forums don't but you see the "bread and butter" of EVE.

Go play test server untill your account runs out, then try another game. Give it 3 or 4 months you will get a 5 day free return or a $5 killmail from CCP. I know you are pissed but trust me, once you get away for a few months it all seems far less frustrating and all rather pathetic.

GL

Actually, the game is averaging about 40k at peak hours. Up from last month.

Also, xenophobe is not the word you are looking for (I for one am not afraid of anything strange).
Zions Child
Higashikata Industries
#149 - 2011-12-13 04:48:53 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Vernn wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Vernn wrote:
I CAN GO ANYWHERE AND DO ANYTHING AND THEY CAN KEEP DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING? Anywhere I go except a station. Anywhere in space they can do it.

Mining ice in Caldari, Minmatar, and Amarr space is currently legal. Go forth and mine ice to your heart's content.



Or else you'll come get me in your.................................


kestrel


Game of the year right here people!

I prefer to use a Brutix because they are classier. What really gets me hot, though, is the new tier 3 battlecruisers...battleship level DPS for a fraction of the battleship's price! My massive thighs are literally quaking with excitement


That is an absolutely terrifying image, not helped at all by your avatar.

Also, 8 pages? Really? I expected this to hit, two, maybe three and die.

This is the thread that keeps on giving... Either a pretty terrible troll, or someone who is fantastically stupid.


Also, they are controlling an entire sector of the economy with market manipulation and interdiction of the Gallente Ice fields. Also, one type of racial ice hardly counts as a sector of the EVE economy. Also also, the market manipulation of Gallente Ice requires a hell of a lot more effort than "OMFG KESTRELS."
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#150 - 2011-12-13 04:49:28 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Q< If i kill outlaw do he get an kill right afterwards ?

If so, isnt killing the outlaw actuall punishment for the one who shot it ?
No. As an outlaw, he's a legal target.

Kill rights are only handed out to illegal targets who are killed in (unresisted) attacks.


thanks.. that makes things even easier... In defending against them... you can actually camp gates and forbid them entering system you intend to mine.. Cool

Altho it require some level of social interaction...
Vernn
Winnguard
#151 - 2011-12-13 04:49:31 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Vernn wrote:
If I go into an ice belt in a barge to mine, I can get ganked repeatedly by someone with a -10 security status?

Someone who is supposed to be insta killed by concord can somehow warp to me and kill me over and over again in practically free ships?

I have no problem whatsoever with being ganked, so long as they take the security hit, and after several times concord instagibs them. Keeps the game fun having to pay attention for stuff like that.

However are you seriously telling me that this game has come to the point where I can lose multimillion isk ships in high sec to someone who has -10 sec rating over and over again?

Really?


*stunned*


Do what they want you to do, leave. Unlike the zealots who troll you, you're not married to EVE. This game now averages 20-25K online with mediocre spikes. CCP know 8 year old games never recover from that. The xenophobes on the forums don't but you see the "bread and butter" of EVE.

Go play test server untill your account runs out, then try another game. Give it 3 or 4 months you will get a 5 day free return or a $5 killmail from CCP. I know you are pissed but trust me, once you get away for a few months it all seems far less frustrating and all rather pathetic.

GL



So they have complete power over me to stop me from mining blue ice in highsec and all they had to risk to do that was.....................................................................



kestrels
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#152 - 2011-12-13 04:49:52 UTC
Vernn wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:

I prefer to use a Brutix because they are classier. What really gets me hot, though, is the new tier 3 battlecruisers...battleship level DPS for a fraction of the battleship's price! My massive thighs are literally quaking with excitement



You're telling me thats not a griefer?


"My massive thighs are literally quaking with excitement"


Yeah, he sounds like he is trying to make progress in the game.

I've known probably 100 clowns just like this guy and his buddies in other games. All they wanna do is upset the status quo no matter what they have to do to do it. They don't care what happens to anyone. They aren't concerned with the integrity of the game. They just want to cause the maximum amount of grief with the least amount of effort.

They are griefers. That is what they do.

And in this game they are suicide gankers who keep the market running (well, the mining ships and modules market at least).
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#153 - 2011-12-13 04:50:01 UTC
Vernn wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:

I prefer to use a Brutix because they are classier. What really gets me hot, though, is the new tier 3 battlecruisers...battleship level DPS for a fraction of the battleship's price! My massive thighs are literally quaking with excitement



You're telling me thats not a griefer?


"My massive thighs are literally quaking with excitement"


Yeah, he sounds like he is trying to make progress in the game.

I've known probably 100 clowns just like this guy and his buddies in other games. All they wanna do is upset the status quo no matter what they have to do to do it. They don't care what happens to anyone. They aren't concerned with the integrity of the game. They just want to cause the maximum amount of grief with the least amount of effort.

They are griefers. That is what they do.


Griefing is against the game's ToS. If you see anybody doing it you should report them to CCP.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Vernn
Winnguard
#154 - 2011-12-13 04:50:13 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Q< If i kill outlaw do he get an kill right afterwards ?

If so, isnt killing the outlaw actuall punishment for the one who shot it ?
No. As an outlaw, he's a legal target.

Kill rights are only handed out to illegal targets who are killed in (unresisted) attacks.


thanks.. that makes things even easier... In defending against them... you can actually camp gates and forbid them entering system you intend to mine.. Cool

Altho it require some level of social interaction...



Ok, so I can kill them, and then go get my barge and start mining ice, and then.....................................


kestrels
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#155 - 2011-12-13 04:51:20 UTC
Vernn wrote:
So they have complete power over me to stop me from mining blue ice in highsec

Why do you feel entitled to do something that is currently illegal?

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Vernn
Winnguard
#156 - 2011-12-13 04:51:37 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Vernn wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:

I prefer to use a Brutix because they are classier. What really gets me hot, though, is the new tier 3 battlecruisers...battleship level DPS for a fraction of the battleship's price! My massive thighs are literally quaking with excitement



You're telling me thats not a griefer?


"My massive thighs are literally quaking with excitement"


Yeah, he sounds like he is trying to make progress in the game.

I've known probably 100 clowns just like this guy and his buddies in other games. All they wanna do is upset the status quo no matter what they have to do to do it. They don't care what happens to anyone. They aren't concerned with the integrity of the game. They just want to cause the maximum amount of grief with the least amount of effort.

They are griefers. That is what they do.

And in this game they are suicide gankers who keep the market running (well, the mining ships and modules market at least).



Driving blue ice to almost 500k a unit is keeping the market running? I don't think so.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#157 - 2011-12-13 04:51:45 UTC
Ok, I've given up... the guy is either a troll (9/10 in that case) or a complete twit who thinks they are entitled to control how others play the game without putting any effort into it themselves.

No point trying to correct either.
Zions Child
Higashikata Industries
#158 - 2011-12-13 04:52:38 UTC
Vernn wrote:



So they have complete power over me to stop me from mining blue ice in highsec and all they had to risk to do that was.....................................................................



kestrels



Yep. You know why? Because there are thousands of people like you, people who refuse to adapt. If you aren't going to adapt, then you deserve everything you get.


Also, holyshitninepages.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#159 - 2011-12-13 04:53:32 UTC
Vernn wrote:
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Q< If i kill outlaw do he get an kill right afterwards ?

If so, isnt killing the outlaw actuall punishment for the one who shot it ?
No. As an outlaw, he's a legal target.

Kill rights are only handed out to illegal targets who are killed in (unresisted) attacks.


thanks.. that makes things even easier... In defending against them... you can actually camp gates and forbid them entering system you intend to mine.. Cool

Altho it require some level of social interaction...



Ok, so I can kill them, and then go get my barge and start mining ice, and then.....................................


kestrels


Well if its not some large scheme created by some alliance/corporation then i bet if you kill the assaulter ten times out of ten he will eventually find another target who is not you. Unless he got some anger management problem and will come in overly expensive ship like proteus or tengu or sleipnir or astarte, which will make the engagement slightly problematic but if he stays on gates he gonna get screwed by NPC militia, and if he attack your ship in that, well he will destroy you but ultimately isk wise he lost.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#160 - 2011-12-13 04:54:16 UTC
Vernn wrote:
Driving blue ice to almost 500k a unit is keeping the market running?
Yup.
Massive profits are to be made.