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Vernn
Winnguard
#121 - 2011-12-13 04:32:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Vernn
Corina Jarr wrote:
Vernn wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Hey there Vernn!

Mining blue ice is currently illegal but you are welcome to mine any other type of ice. If you had spent as much time moving a few systems over and mining a different type of ice as you did whining here you could have made hundreds of isk by now.

If, on the other hand, you simply must mine blue ice there are several miner protection plans available from any Goonswarm Federation members you see in local. Send a PM to one of them and they will get you on the list of approved miners right away after you take care of the fees.


Does everyone now finally see the problem?

They have all the power!

I have to pay them in high sec or I have to risk millions in ships.

They are risking.................wait for it...........................



KESTRELS!



And the MMO Game Design of the Year award goes to........................not CCP. =/

They only have the power you give them.

I've mined blue ice here and there in Gallente space without paying (I'm so going to regret saying this). Made a lot too.

Had to work for it of course.



Anyway, if you let someone walk all over you, of course they will have the power. You gave it to them the moment you decided it was to much work to take defensive measures.

Edit: yeah Dan, if this is a troll, at least he keeps up well. And if not... I worry.



How are you missing this? I CAN GO ANYWHERE AND DO ANYTHING AND THEY CAN KEEP DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING? Anywhere I go except a station. Anywhere in space they can do it.


ITS BAD GAME DESIGN. BAD! BAD BAD BAD! =P
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#122 - 2011-12-13 04:32:58 UTC
Vernn wrote:
First Lieutenant Dan wrote:
Now that I've briefly skimmed this. See how you are all argueing against one guy? 9.5/10


No, several people have agreed. They just aren't the ones slinging insults and throwing around common internet fodder like "9.5/10."



One agreed. Another agreed partially, but did not agree with your rabid stance on the issue and your seemingly obvious obtuseness.
First Lieutenant Dan
Doomheim
#123 - 2011-12-13 04:33:05 UTC
Vernn wrote:
First Lieutenant Dan wrote:
Now that I've briefly skimmed this. See how you are all argueing against one guy? 9.5/10


No, several people have agreed. They just aren't the ones slinging insults and throwing around common internet fodder like "9.5/10."




*Ahem*

Can't troll a troll biatch.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#124 - 2011-12-13 04:33:07 UTC
First Lieutenant Dan wrote:
Screw edits. Tippia and goonie both sucked into thread from page one? 10 out of mother ******* 10


this needs to be stickied.Cool

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#125 - 2011-12-13 04:34:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Corina Jarr
Vernn wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
Vernn wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Hey there Vernn!

Mining blue ice is currently illegal but you are welcome to mine any other type of ice. If you had spent as much time moving a few systems over and mining a different type of ice as you did whining here you could have made hundreds of isk by now.

If, on the other hand, you simply must mine blue ice there are several miner protection plans available from any Goonswarm Federation members you see in local. Send a PM to one of them and they will get you on the list of approved miners right away after you take care of the fees.


Does everyone now finally see the problem?

They have all the power!

I have to pay them in high sec or I have to risk millions in ships.

They are risking.................wait for it...........................



KESTRELS!



And the MMO Game Design of the Year award goes to........................not CCP. =/

They only have the power you give them.

I've mined blue ice here and there in Gallente space without paying (I'm so going to regret saying this). Made a lot too.

Had to work for it of course.



Anyway, if you let someone walk all over you, of course they will have the power. You gave it to them the moment you decided it was to much work to take defensive measures.

Edit: yeah Dan, if this is a troll, at least he keeps up well. And if not... I worry.



How are you missing this? I CAN GO ANYWHERE AND DO ANYTHING AND THEY CAN KEEP DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING?


ITS BAD GAME DESIGN. BAD! BAD BAD BAD! =P

Or you can ******* shoot back at them, pop them till they move somewhere else. And if you don't want to put forth a little effort then you can take your entitled ass and leave.



Edit: I apologize to all the cool headed people here. I have lost my temper... and must now bow out of this before I try to join Goons in their interdiction, an action I would likely regret in the long run.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#126 - 2011-12-13 04:34:14 UTC
Vernn wrote:
How are you missing this? I CAN GO ANYWHERE AND DO ANYTHING AND THEY CAN KEEP DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING? Anywhere I go except a station. Anywhere in space they can do it.


ITS BAD GAME DESIGN. BAD! BAD BAD BAD! =P
No. It's a sandbox. A very very good one.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#127 - 2011-12-13 04:36:18 UTC
Vernn wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
Vernn wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Hey there Vernn!

Mining blue ice is currently illegal but you are welcome to mine any other type of ice. If you had spent as much time moving a few systems over and mining a different type of ice as you did whining here you could have made hundreds of isk by now.

If, on the other hand, you simply must mine blue ice there are several miner protection plans available from any Goonswarm Federation members you see in local. Send a PM to one of them and they will get you on the list of approved miners right away after you take care of the fees.


Does everyone now finally see the problem?

They have all the power!

I have to pay them in high sec or I have to risk millions in ships.

They are risking.................wait for it...........................



KESTRELS!



And the MMO Game Design of the Year award goes to........................not CCP. =/

They only have the power you give them.

I've mined blue ice here and there in Gallente space without paying (I'm so going to regret saying this). Made a lot too.

Had to work for it of course.



Anyway, if you let someone walk all over you, of course they will have the power. You gave it to them the moment you decided it was to much work to take defensive measures.

Edit: yeah Dan, if this is a troll, at least he keeps up well. And if not... I worry.



How are you missing this? I CAN GO ANYWHERE AND DO ANYTHING AND THEY CAN KEEP DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING? Anywhere I go except a station. Anywhere in space they can do it.


ITS BAD GAME DESIGN. BAD! BAD BAD BAD! =P



no, if they follow you, then you petition them for griefing.

note -- if you move systems, and SOMEONE ELSE starts shooting you for any of the afore-mentioned reasons ... guess you chose a bad system. Keep in mind that the goons do have a very public interdiction on gallente ice right now, so it would be in your best interests to not go to another system with blue ice in it (just sayin').

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Vernn
Winnguard
#128 - 2011-12-13 04:37:04 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Vernn wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
Vernn wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Hey there Vernn!

Mining blue ice is currently illegal but you are welcome to mine any other type of ice. If you had spent as much time moving a few systems over and mining a different type of ice as you did whining here you could have made hundreds of isk by now.

If, on the other hand, you simply must mine blue ice there are several miner protection plans available from any Goonswarm Federation members you see in local. Send a PM to one of them and they will get you on the list of approved miners right away after you take care of the fees.


Does everyone now finally see the problem?

They have all the power!

I have to pay them in high sec or I have to risk millions in ships.

They are risking.................wait for it...........................



KESTRELS!



And the MMO Game Design of the Year award goes to........................not CCP. =/

They only have the power you give them.

I've mined blue ice here and there in Gallente space without paying (I'm so going to regret saying this). Made a lot too.

Had to work for it of course.



Anyway, if you let someone walk all over you, of course they will have the power. You gave it to them the moment you decided it was to much work to take defensive measures.

Edit: yeah Dan, if this is a troll, at least he keeps up well. And if not... I worry.



How are you missing this? I CAN GO ANYWHERE AND DO ANYTHING AND THEY CAN KEEP DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING?


ITS BAD GAME DESIGN. BAD! BAD BAD BAD! =P

Or you can ******* shoot back at them, pop them till they move somewhere else. And if you don't want to put forth a little effort then you can take your entitled ass and leave.



Edit: I apologize to all the cool headed people here. I have lost my temper... and must now bow out of this before I try to join Goons in their interdiction, an action I would likely regret in the long run.


Mining barges don't have guns, and they won't come out unless you're in a mining barge. I understand your sentiment, but it has no practical application in this situation.
Vernn
Winnguard
#129 - 2011-12-13 04:38:33 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Vernn wrote:
How are you missing this? I CAN GO ANYWHERE AND DO ANYTHING AND THEY CAN KEEP DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING? Anywhere I go except a station. Anywhere in space they can do it.


ITS BAD GAME DESIGN. BAD! BAD BAD BAD! =P
No. It's a sandbox. A very very good one.



There are videos of babies pooping on youtube that have more views than the total number of subscribers that this game has ever had.
First Lieutenant Dan
Doomheim
#130 - 2011-12-13 04:38:46 UTC
Am I on page eight yet?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#131 - 2011-12-13 04:39:08 UTC
Vernn wrote:
Mining barges don't have guns
This isn't strictly true…
Quote:
they won't come out unless you're in a mining barge.
Excellent! Problem solved then. Big smile
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#132 - 2011-12-13 04:39:08 UTC
Vernn wrote:
I CAN GO ANYWHERE AND DO ANYTHING AND THEY CAN KEEP DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING? Anywhere I go except a station. Anywhere in space they can do it.

Mining ice in Caldari, Minmatar, and Amarr space is currently legal. Go forth and mine ice to your heart's content.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Vernn
Winnguard
#133 - 2011-12-13 04:40:10 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Vernn wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
Vernn wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Hey there Vernn!

Mining blue ice is currently illegal but you are welcome to mine any other type of ice. If you had spent as much time moving a few systems over and mining a different type of ice as you did whining here you could have made hundreds of isk by now.

If, on the other hand, you simply must mine blue ice there are several miner protection plans available from any Goonswarm Federation members you see in local. Send a PM to one of them and they will get you on the list of approved miners right away after you take care of the fees.


Does everyone now finally see the problem?

They have all the power!

I have to pay them in high sec or I have to risk millions in ships.

They are risking.................wait for it...........................



KESTRELS!



And the MMO Game Design of the Year award goes to........................not CCP. =/

They only have the power you give them.

I've mined blue ice here and there in Gallente space without paying (I'm so going to regret saying this). Made a lot too.

Had to work for it of course.



Anyway, if you let someone walk all over you, of course they will have the power. You gave it to them the moment you decided it was to much work to take defensive measures.

Edit: yeah Dan, if this is a troll, at least he keeps up well. And if not... I worry.



How are you missing this? I CAN GO ANYWHERE AND DO ANYTHING AND THEY CAN KEEP DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING? Anywhere I go except a station. Anywhere in space they can do it.


ITS BAD GAME DESIGN. BAD! BAD BAD BAD! =P



no, if they follow you, then you petition them for griefing.

note -- if you move systems, and SOMEONE ELSE starts shooting you for any of the afore-mentioned reasons ... guess you chose a bad system. Keep in mind that the goons do have a very public interdiction on gallente ice right now, so it would be in your best interests to not go to another system with blue ice in it (just sayin').



So by the games design they can control an enormous part of the games economy with.....................


kestrels



Seriously?
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#134 - 2011-12-13 04:41:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Corina Jarr
Vernn wrote:


Mining barges don't have guns, and they won't come out unless you're in a mining barge. I understand your sentiment, but it has no practical application in this situation.

You seem to forget the fact that they can't know what you have until they undock. And if they have another person providing intel, then you should get another person to provide protection.

And you do have drones...

Also, there are ways to make a gank impossible (though it requires the dirty word "work".




And there I go not following my own advice and leaving the thread... I'm so addicted tot his place.Sad
Vernn
Winnguard
#135 - 2011-12-13 04:41:22 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Vernn wrote:
I CAN GO ANYWHERE AND DO ANYTHING AND THEY CAN KEEP DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING? Anywhere I go except a station. Anywhere in space they can do it.

Mining ice in Caldari, Minmatar, and Amarr space is currently legal. Go forth and mine ice to your heart's content.



Or else you'll come get me in your.................................


kestrel


Game of the year right here people!
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#136 - 2011-12-13 04:42:19 UTC
Vernn wrote:
So by the games design they can control an enormous part of the games economy with kestrels
Nope.
Quote:
Seriously?
Hyperboles aren't serious almost by very definition.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#137 - 2011-12-13 04:42:48 UTC
Vernn wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Vernn wrote:
I CAN GO ANYWHERE AND DO ANYTHING AND THEY CAN KEEP DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING? Anywhere I go except a station. Anywhere in space they can do it.

Mining ice in Caldari, Minmatar, and Amarr space is currently legal. Go forth and mine ice to your heart's content.



Or else you'll come get me in your.................................


kestrel


Game of the year right here people!



TBH, a kestrel shoulShocked... wait, you're not mining in a completely un-tanked retriever are you?Lol

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Vernn
Winnguard
#138 - 2011-12-13 04:43:15 UTC
Corina wants me to fight off a suicide ganker that warps right on top of me and opens fire a second later with....................



drones




Please, lets stay in the realm of the practical here.
Vernn
Winnguard
#139 - 2011-12-13 04:43:53 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Vernn wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Vernn wrote:
I CAN GO ANYWHERE AND DO ANYTHING AND THEY CAN KEEP DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING? Anywhere I go except a station. Anywhere in space they can do it.

Mining ice in Caldari, Minmatar, and Amarr space is currently legal. Go forth and mine ice to your heart's content.



Or else you'll come get me in your.................................


kestrel


Game of the year right here people!



TBH, a kestrel shoulShocked... wait, you're not mining in a completely un-tanked retriever are you?Lol


Retriever. I crunched the numbers. Wouldn't matter what I put on it. I'd be toast.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#140 - 2011-12-13 04:44:49 UTC
Vernn wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Vernn wrote:
I CAN GO ANYWHERE AND DO ANYTHING AND THEY CAN KEEP DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING? Anywhere I go except a station. Anywhere in space they can do it.

Mining ice in Caldari, Minmatar, and Amarr space is currently legal. Go forth and mine ice to your heart's content.



Or else you'll come get me in your.................................


kestrel


Game of the year right here people!

I prefer to use a Brutix because they are classier. What really gets me hot, though, is the new tier 3 battlecruisers...battleship level DPS for a fraction of the battleship's price! My massive thighs are literally quaking with excitement

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.