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Why is there no outrage over the xmas gifts?
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Crystal Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
#21 - 2011-12-13 01:05:17 UTC
Do your part to uphold the ecomony.

Pod people Shocked




Don't pod me bro!
Shellshock Bob
Doomheim
#22 - 2011-12-13 01:13:35 UTC
Joe SMASH wrote:
Seriously?

Great gifts, yes, I will not lie about that. However....


What about the people who make destroyers?
What about the people who make POS fuel blocks?
What about the people who sell implants with LP?
What about the people who sell faction ammo with LP?

All of the above people are getting boned by the promotions. CCP is breaking the sandbox by spawning items from magic GM powers that are normally player created and/or player seeded on the markets. This sets a very dangerous precedent for future NEX Store / promotions. The only thing on the list that is a true gift is the remap. Anything else is intentionally f*cking the people who normally work those markets.

My $0.02, not trolling for once.



I make a good bit of isk selling faction ammo and i have no problems with the gift selection. If anything i won't sell any for a few weeks, and instead buy at the rock bottom prices, and sit on it until the market comes back up on it.
Potamus Jenkins
eXceed Inc.
Plucky Adventurers
#23 - 2011-12-13 01:21:36 UTC
Shellshock Bob wrote:
Joe SMASH wrote:
Seriously?

Great gifts, yes, I will not lie about that. However....


What about the people who make destroyers?
What about the people who make POS fuel blocks?
What about the people who sell implants with LP?
What about the people who sell faction ammo with LP?

All of the above people are getting boned by the promotions. CCP is breaking the sandbox by spawning items from magic GM powers that are normally player created and/or player seeded on the markets. This sets a very dangerous precedent for future NEX Store / promotions. The only thing on the list that is a true gift is the remap. Anything else is intentionally f*cking the people who normally work those markets.

My $0.02, not trolling for once.



I make a good bit of isk selling faction ammo and i have no problems with the gift selection. If anything i won't sell any for a few weeks, and instead buy at the rock bottom prices, and sit on it until the market comes back up on it.




i like the cut of your jib
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#24 - 2011-12-13 01:40:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Morganta
really its a few free ships and implants, the ammo is pretty meaningless, a small bump in a brisk market

I kind of see it as a way to encourage pvp, its all oriented to combat for the most part, then vanity then temporary buffs and ammo

don't want to risk that set of +3s, well here's another, go get podded
wanna try the new destroyers? have a few, burn em up, we'll even throw in the ammo, and you'll get back the hull value if insured
wanna run that extra tough mission? have a buff
or if nothing else, here's some ammo

the fuel BPs make sense as most people serious about fuel wont be buying it in jita anyway and will buy the npc seeds

shuttles? who cares?

think you're god? well put on a suit for christ's sake.
Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2011-12-13 01:44:21 UTC
Yeeeess neural remap

Now when I finish training every skill with operation, management and upgrades in its name, I can actually remap and start training spaceships and gunnery at unretarded speeds for the next 9 months.

 Though All Men Do Despise Us
Forum Fighter
Doomheim
#26 - 2011-12-13 01:52:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Forum Fighter
Dude. Read your thread title.

Outrage. Gift.

Entitlement much? You must be a 99%'r.

Bearer of the 1600mm Tinfoil Hat™
Echo Falls
Adherents of the Repeated Meme
#27 - 2011-12-13 01:55:08 UTC
Galatea Galilei wrote:
Joe SMASH wrote:
...not trolling for once.

lol... no one has ever said that phrase in honesty. (If people aren't trolling, it doesn't even occur to them to say it. Only trolls feel the need to add the disclaimer.)

Echo Falls wrote:
I know I have, 2000 Aurum .. that should get me up to those heals I have been craving. The lady needs to keep up appearances.

Unfortunately, the heels are 3000. :(


+ The rest of the Aurum already given away .. The Lady is not daft, she saves for her heals.
Mistress Lilu
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#28 - 2011-12-13 02:16:20 UTC
Joe SMASH wrote:
Seriously?

Great gifts, yes, I will not lie about that. However....


What about the people who make destroyers?
What about the people who make POS fuel blocks?
What about the people who sell implants with LP?
What about the people who sell faction ammo with LP?

All of the above people are getting boned by the promotions. CCP is breaking the sandbox by spawning items from magic GM powers that are normally player created and/or player seeded on the markets. This sets a very dangerous precedent for future NEX Store / promotions. The only thing on the list that is a true gift is the remap. Anything else is intentionally f*cking the people who normally work those markets.

My $0.02, not trolling for once.

Dude shut up..
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#29 - 2011-12-13 02:48:37 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

Hookers in the CQ (unless the backstory says that clones are rather, uh.... lacking...)


Clones don't seem to be lacking fingers and tongues. Is that what you meant?
Jake Peters
ICT World Bank
#30 - 2011-12-13 03:03:30 UTC
Thank you for the Christmas gift CCP...the remap will do very nicely! Big smile
Nullbeard Rager
Doomheim
#31 - 2011-12-13 03:10:10 UTC
Potamus Jenkins wrote:
then do your duty to your fellow community and dont claim your gift. your conscience is clear friend


This.

Field of Trolls:  "If you chum it, they will come."
AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
#32 - 2011-12-13 03:50:50 UTC
OP, though trolling, is correct. Giving 150M worth of crap to everyone is way too much pee in the sandbox and sets a horrible precedent.
Helena Russell Makanen
DRRUSSEL
#33 - 2011-12-13 04:04:39 UTC
AkJon Ferguson wrote:
OP, though trolling, is correct. Giving 150M worth of crap to everyone is way too much pee in the sandbox and sets a horrible precedent.


Your posts are unrelentingly negative. Guess that is what getting your lips caught in a pool drain will do.

Seriously lay off the collagen... bee-stung lips look really ridiculous on a man.

"If a miner needs to go to the bathroom, for instance, I ask that they dock up first, or at the very least ask the Supreme Protector for permission to go."  -  James 315 - aka - the miner bumper

Trainwreck McGee
Doomheim
#34 - 2011-12-13 04:06:46 UTC
OP is dumb can we move on?

learn the market before posting stupid

CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool
Selinate
#35 - 2011-12-13 04:14:14 UTC
*shrug* just buy the **** out of them and wait for price to go back up.

Formula for success
Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2011-12-13 04:38:39 UTC
Joe SMASH wrote:
Seriously?

Great gifts, yes, I will not lie about that. However....


What about the people who make destroyers?
What about the people who make POS fuel blocks?
What about the people who sell implants with LP?
What about the people who sell faction ammo with LP?

All of the above people are getting boned by the promotions. CCP is breaking the sandbox by spawning items from magic GM powers that are normally player created and/or player seeded on the markets. This sets a very dangerous precedent for future NEX Store / promotions. The only thing on the list that is a true gift is the remap. Anything else is intentionally f*cking the people who normally work those markets.

My $0.02, not trolling for once.


The only market that will be unduly affected, IMO, are the basic implants. However people who sell implants with LP have plenty of other options for LP conversion, including +4 and +5 implants.

Fuel blocks give enough fuel for 1 day for 1 of each large tower. The market will easily be able to absorb the gift.

I have a feeling that people who choose either the faction ammo or destroyer rewards will be more likely to use them than sell them. Maybe they will sell the "useless" types of faction ammo, but I doubt the "useless" faction ammo was ever a good LP conversion in the first place.

Anyways the T1 market already has paper thin margins - if it crashes, people will just buy up the destroyers and refine them. If it doesn't crash that far, it will be an investment opportunity, and somebody will step in to take advantage of it.

What is even more likely, is that there will be a nice spread of gifts chosen by players, so no market will be unduly affected.
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