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vagabond for nulll sec pvp
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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-10-08 09:30:57 UTC
Hi just wondering if anyone has some decent fits?
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-10-08 11:18:16 UTC
Yep got a few thanks Big smile

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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#3 - 2014-10-08 12:00:38 UTC
I have one that will sock your rocks off.

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Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#4 - 2014-10-08 12:05:04 UTC
People are so lazy these days.

They kiting AC Vaga is a bit mediocre these days due to its below average tank and terrible applied DPS, its an ok 100MN Brawler but overall its a very underwhelming ship IMO.

If you are looking for a pure kiting ship a Navy Omen might be more useful.
Czarnyka Kot
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-10-19 12:34:36 UTC
The vaga used to be so good. I miss those days.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#6 - 2014-10-19 23:22:31 UTC
All the (whine-) matar pilots here that are upset that tracking enhancers got range nerfed keep forgetting that at the end of your falloff range you will be doing 50% of the dps your fitting screen is showing.

The point you will be doing zero dps is and always was at 2x falloff.

And with range comes better tracking which might be a surprise for everyone complaining.

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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-10-20 10:16:48 UTC
so if my range is 40 + 15 for example (optimal + falloff)

then and 40+30 i will do 0 dps?
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#8 - 2014-10-20 10:27:06 UTC
Bastion Arzi wrote:
so if my range is 40 + 15 for example (optimal + falloff)

then and 40+30 i will do 0 dps?


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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2014-10-20 10:28:04 UTC
thanks, just wanted to b sure
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#10 - 2014-10-20 10:47:33 UTC
Bastion Arzi wrote:
thanks, just wanted to b sure


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Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#11 - 2014-10-20 11:28:44 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
All the (whine-) matar pilots here that are upset that tracking enhancers got range nerfed keep forgetting that at the end of your falloff range you will be doing 50% of the dps your fitting screen is showing.

The point you will be doing zero dps is and always was at 2x falloff.

And with range comes better tracking which might be a surprise for everyone complaining.

Cudos!



Yeah that's all cool n stuff, but as long as there is Scorch, having higher optimals than falloff-bonused ships have 1x Falloff with Barrage, while doing more dps *prior to falloff*, autocannons will stay a horrible weaponsystem to use on medium size.
It wouldn't hurt minmatar that much if there were ships that could fit a rack of arties without having to use multiple fitting mods to make them 'work', or if they still had ships that are faster than other ships so they could at least play on time, ...

But you can see it. NOmen is close to a Vaga and Cynabal in terms of speed, and on-par or better in range and dps. And hilariously cheap (no balancefactor though).
A Rupture is so damn slow that even fat turds like a maller can keep up with em.

Minmatar has kinda became a brawling race in terms of mobility, however their point-blank firepower is lacking, laughable so to say.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2014-10-20 14:35:45 UTC
these lazy fucks not bothering to try to fit it themselves...

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Stitch Kaneland
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#13 - 2014-10-21 19:03:55 UTC
180 XLASB+LSE is decent vaga fit.

x2 gyro and TE
1 nano

I prefer 220mm for extra range, but few mods have to be pimped to make it work.

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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2014-10-21 21:34:28 UTC
trying this in pyfa i have to use 2 fitting rigs and downgrade the damage control.

is that the intended fit?

no implants
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#15 - 2014-10-21 22:24:28 UTC
Bastion Arzi wrote:
trying this in pyfa i have to use 2 fitting rigs and downgrade the damage control.

is that the intended fit?

no implants



meta 4 DC is not really a downgrade, it's an option to squeeze in CPU hungry stuff.
Stitch Kaneland
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#16 - 2014-10-22 00:15:50 UTC
Bastion Arzi wrote:
trying this in pyfa i have to use 2 fitting rigs and downgrade the damage control.

is that the intended fit?

no implants


You don't need a DCU, just don't get shot. Thats how to vagabond :). Your speed is your main tank. You've got a native 75/60/40/50 anyway, just avoid kinetic heavy ships (caldari).

The tank is there for when you fight missile/rail/arty boats, or to tank drones. But, anything short range should not be hitting you. If it is, you done goofed and got scrammed. The large EHP on this fit, mixed with the speed and good cap life can make extended fights easier to manage. Just don't click approach and derp into them.


This is pretty much the base that i used:

[Vagabond, 180/XLASB]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Large Shield Extender II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Dread Guristas Warp Disruptor

Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
[empty high slot]

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Projectile Ambit Extension II

Warrior II x5

I personally flew mine with a small neut and used a 2% cpu implant i think. But thats like 489 dps, and fall-off around 24km. 40-50K EHP after magazine of XLASB. It goes 2683 cold, and around 3823 OH

I now fly with 220's since that bumps range up to 24km w/o ambit rig and adds 25ish dps i think. I use extra rig for tank, or more tracking/dps. Requires pimping a module or changing to RCU instead of nano. Normally fly with zor's and a few low end turret implants (3%) to bump the dps up to about 550 dps.

Give Battlecruisers range to fullfil their Anti-Cruiser role - OP SUCCESS

Make the Muninn great again!