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No safe haven/harbour for pansies in high sec

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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-10-07 20:38:11 UTC
The ability to stay forever in NPC corporations should be discontinued. Players should have to leave NPC corps after 30 days, and either form their own corp or join a player-run one, never to return to a NPC corp again.

Additionally, players under wardec should no longer be able to switch corps or join an NPC corp to shed a wardec. This current mechanic to dodge wardecs is an exploit, and should be closed immediately.

Don't do this for justice, or just because it is right to do so...do it for the children. The ones who are learning as we speak one of two lessons... pansification where everyone gets a trophy despite incompetence, or HTFU.

What is EvE and what should EvE remain. I say HTFU.

Let the mechanics reflect the sentiment.

F
MP2008
Restinotia Corp
#2 - 2014-10-07 20:59:50 UTC
Lol, incoming hostility in 3.....2......1.......
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-10-07 21:05:52 UTC
Why? Seems like some people enjoy being in the beginner corp because they like the people they talk with while also being able to help out newer players who have left the beginner area and help chat.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#4 - 2014-10-07 21:06:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Shiptoasting in another troll thread.

Edit: Although it is funnier than the last.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#5 - 2014-10-07 21:10:27 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:


What is EvE and what should EvE remain. I say HTFU.



I agree. People should HTFU and learn to fight against people that enjoy a good wardec instead of forcing people out of NPC so they can be griefed by the risk averse pussies that want free kills.

That's what you meant, right?

Mr Epeen Cool
Ix Method
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-10-07 21:13:10 UTC
Use of the word pansies assures +1s

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Anslo
Scope Works
#7 - 2014-10-07 21:30:07 UTC
Here's one for you. Once shitposting edgy tryhards reach a certain number of shitposts, force them to forever remain in lowsec, unable to even approach highsec gates.

Huehue

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Airto TLA
Acorn's Wonder Bars
#8 - 2014-10-07 21:42:57 UTC
Two large notes that make your suggestion untenable.

1) Hi sec war deccers are lame, and are not looking for real PvP just padding kill board stats.

2) The most important one, NO ONE pays their money for a subscription to provide you content, in other words the person you are chasing to harass and kill (since they are unable to defend themselves), will quit and cost CCP money in the process.

If you want a fight go to low sec with a small group at some point someone will oblige. Also heard the Red and Blue corps never run to NPC corps.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#9 - 2014-10-07 22:13:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
What is EvE and what should EvE remain. I say HTFU.


No wartargets for you? Then HTFU and gank them. Roll There are other ways than war decing to PVP in High sec, you should try them. Oh, and wardecing corps/alliances who can't fight back because industrial corp certainly shows how HTFU you are. Roll

First and foremost, we should take away the ability of people below a sec status of -5 to be in NPC corps. That's usually gankers and they don't need safe havens in High sec in an NPC corp whose faction doesn't allow their stay in this faction's space any more ... (not that it matters all too much, as they can be shot on sight anyways)

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Paranoid Loyd
#10 - 2014-10-07 22:18:49 UTC
Satire folks, satire

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Wolf Incaelum
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2014-10-07 22:32:15 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
The ability to stay forever in NPC corporations should be discontinued. Players should have to leave NPC corps after 30 days, and either form their own corp or join a player-run one, never to return to a NPC corp again.


Maybe some people don't want to be in a corporation at all. The best place to be if you don't want to be affiliated with anyone (as far as other players are concerned) is an NPC corp. Players shouldn't be forced to create their own corps or join someone else's. What happens if the player decides he wants join someone else's corporation, but he can't find anyone who will let him in? Does he suddenly lose his character on which he's spent thirty days of training? I'd be pretty pissed if that happened to me. Pay for a subscription just to have the first 30 days go down the drain? Yeah, **** that. Besides, don't you have to have a skill or two trained before you can start your own corp? Even if you only need one skill trained to lvl 1 to start a corp, that's still 15 minutes of training that could be allocated otherwise.

Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Don't do this for justice, or just because it is right to do so...do it for the children.


You sound like a soccer mom on a public education committee. Lol.

ANARCHYFOREVAAARRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#12 - 2014-10-07 23:18:13 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Satire folks, satire


Doesn't matter, gotta defend dat golden goose.

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#13 - 2014-10-08 00:03:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
Mag's wrote:
Shiptoasting in another troll thread.


Still roasting in a tougher droll bread.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-10-08 01:06:31 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:


What is EvE and what should EvE remain. I say HTFU.



I agree. People should HTFU and learn to fight against people that enjoy a good wardec instead of forcing people out of NPC so they can be griefed by the risk averse pussies that want free kills.

That's what you meant, right?

Mr Epeen Cool



This.


Never ceases to amaze me. Dec a crew they know won't fight...and get up in arms when they don't get a fight.


Find a crew that will take the dec and this all goes away really. Or leave empire.
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#15 - 2014-10-08 01:26:23 UTC
Maybe you are trying to war dec the wrong people.

You should try war deccing TAXU, Marmite, or maybe Break a Wish. I am pretty sure you will find they fight back.

Otherwise... what was that lovely phrase you used? Oh yes: this.

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#16 - 2014-10-08 02:32:48 UTC
I don't really think they'd fight back, though. Those groups seem to prefer targets of opportunity.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-10-08 03:36:47 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
I don't really think they'd fight back, though. Those groups seem to prefer targets of opportunity.



Basically,

If they really wanted pvp in empire there has always been the RvB route. Its been a war dec as it were going on for years.

And to to their credit they try to be anti-blob. In that many I know who advertise it will say red is kind of large right now (if it is now, not sure of current population and just an example), go blue unless you really want to roll with a friend in red. Find that a nice touch, the sides have a player base that want some semblance of numbers balance.


They will say teach the bears a lesson, or eve shouldn't be safe for them ofc. IF that's the case many pockets of 0.0 are bot/nullbear infestesd as well. Empire that boring, go give class out there. Make it through the people who actually pvp...looking at some good null bear kills. Recall years back 1 guy posted his kb link till mods pulled it. Dude went on a botter killing spree. Lots of BS' over many days...all solo.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#18 - 2014-10-08 13:08:20 UTC
Zan Shiro wrote:

They will say teach the bears a lesson, or eve shouldn't be safe for them ofc. IF that's the case many pockets of 0.0 are bot/nullbear infestesd as well. Empire that boring, go give class out there. Make it through the people who actually pvp...looking at some good null bear kills. Recall years back 1 guy posted his kb link till mods pulled it. Dude went on a botter killing spree. Lots of BS' over many days...all solo.


Of course it's about highsec.

PvP belongs everywhere in EVE Online, not just low and null. Everywhere. That includes highsec.

And no one needs PvP visited on them more than the people who try the hardest to avoid it. That's highsec. It also happens to be absolutely fat with potential targets, thanks in large part to the over abundance of safety.

So yes, I hunt where the prey lives. Cry more.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#19 - 2014-10-08 13:16:08 UTC
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