EVE General Discussion

No, my attitude is that even if poorly worded, the criticism is good.
No, I'm not leaving it out. I'm simply not so silly as to think that there is no value in just plain old criticism. And of course I replaced your point, since I don't agree with it.

Loud noises has shown to be the one way to get any real attention from CCP — it's not until after that that the constructive arguments can be presented and have any effect.

Your comment reminded me of the 7-minute ab workout.

You can call someone a whiner-whiner, but no one dare call you a whiner-whiner-whiner.

You and I are apparently using different definitions of the word "criticism". You seem to be of the opinion that talking about it in any capacity is criticism. That's not the case. True criticism is calm, rational, informed and productive. It has a formula: "This is what's good, this is what's less good, here's what I think causes it to be less good, here's how I think the discrepancy can be reconciled."

criticism (outside of an EVE context) would be something like this:



THAT would be criticism. It's helpful, practical, not deliberately insulting, and fair.

What we have a lot of instead has none of those qualities. What we have is people making an issue out of something that shouldn't be, then making a lot of noise about it so that this non-issue stays visible when it shouldn't be.

For instance, take the CSM emergency meeting minutes. We were told pretty much immediately after the meeting had happened what was discussed (inside the boundaries of the NDAs), what the response was from each side, the general tone of the discussions and were reassured that there were no plans to yadda yadda yadda.

We then proceeded to get pointless weeks of residual hysteria from people demanding the immediate release of the minutes which... turned out to say exactly what the immediate post-conference communications had said. I don't know what they were expecting, but that continued demanding and wheedling just kept an issue floating around the front page of EGD that should, by rights, have been long since put to bed. it made it look like CCP were dragging their heels in clearing up something that had already been cleared up weeks previously.

That's not criticism, that's muck-flinging and troublemaking. It doesn't produce anything constructive, it just eclipses the stuff that's actually worth talking about behind a veneer of sensationalism, overreaction and distraction.

Not all attention is good attention.

And yet, you posted.

I'll say whatever I want to say, whenever I want.

U mad brah?

"U mad brah?" Too funny. U educated brah?

Well played, sir.

I never learned to read. :(

Whilever they insist on drawing pants instead of spaceships, while they continue to tell us bare faced and demonstrable lies about resource allocation, while they continue to press ahead with products that are not for us and force us to alpha test them, while they keep admitting to treating us like cashcows and golden geese then there is clearly not enough criticism.

You've got it backwards OP.

Aside from trolling, people complain because they care about the game. I game without any complaints is a game no one is playing. That's just how things go.

Pretending that sucking up to CCP is the only form of feedback allowed on the forum is just so ridiculous I'm just not sure how to take you seriously.

Anyways, I'm sure CCP would rather have forums filled with criticism than mostly empty forums because no one cares enough about the game to bother posting.