Ships & Modules

I have a fit that I currently fly right at the edge of scram range (inside); mids consisted of MWD, scram, web, and "other". I made a few tweaks to the overall setup and the "other" module has gone away freeing up a midslot.

Assuming all other things are equal, what do folks think would be a better addition to a scram-range build: an AB or a second web?

Both would improve my ability to dictate range and tracking. A second AB would increase my own GTFO ability, whereas a second web would reduce my target's GTFO ability.

Right now, I'm leaning towards a second web because I tend to reduce my own GTFO needs via careful target selection, but I wanted to ask the community at large for their experience. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks.

EDIT: The ship in question is a Blaster Talos. It's primary MO is to land on targets at perfect range (due to cloaky warp-in), melt the face of a 1-2 cruisers/haulers/barges, and warp out before they know what hit them.

Tough one, tough one.

If you can, carry a mobile depot and both. There's situations in which either will work better.


If you feel like there might show up some foes before you can finish your job - Heated Webs have more range than a scram, but a heated AB will create a bigger difference in velocity for short times.

A second web won't help you outtrack bigger guns, an Afterburner will.


But if your target doesn't have a scram, then the AB is almost a wasted slot.


Choices, choices, so many choices...

Comes time comes knowledge, and you'll get a feeling whether the AB or the Web does you better, based on a situation.
My philosophy is fit your ship for the job you want to get done right now, and not for all the jobs that you might have to do at some time under certain circumstances.


And when it's about frigate pvp, then the question is not '2nd web or AB' - the question is 'MWD or AB'.

By second AB did you mean micro plus AB? Cause pretty certain you can't actually have two AB's anymore.

Thanks all for the input so far. I especially like the Mobile Depot idea, I'll be sure to keep that one in mind. Some replies to particular points, in no particular order:

1. Aside from the additional cap usage of the AB, I can fit an AB or a web equally well without worrying about a fitting mod. This is, ultimately, the source of my dilemma, as every other time this has come up an AB wouldn't fit.

2. I am less concerned about surviving under fire from big guns than I am with applying my own damage to potentially smaller targets. If this were not the case, I would almost certainly go with an AB.

3. The ship in question is a Blaster Talos. (I realize in hindsight that this would have been good to include in the OP due to the relationship of BS guns / BC hull / cruiser tank. I have corrected this oversight.) It's primary MO is to land on targets at perfect range (due to cloaky warp-in), melt the face of a a cruiser/hauler/barge, and warp out before they know what hit them.

In light of that I'd say go with the second web. Even though the AB might help you evade fights, or dictate range, the added speed of your own ship could actually worsen your tracking due to adding to transversal. The web will limit your opponents maneuverability, and help with your tracking. Since you're shooting at smaller targets primarily as you mentioned, I'd go with the web.

For general roaming purposes, I totally agree and, sadly, have never flown it in that role since I started back up this spring after a few years away.

But as a precision instrument wielded against well-scouted targets? In that role I find it works rather wonderfully.

Ah didn't see edit. For blaster boats cruiser and above double web.