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malcovas Henderson
THoF
#21 - 2014-10-06 17:16:43 UTC  |  Edited by: malcovas Henderson
Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Just 40 ships (apparently some of them controlled with ISBoxer) demonstrating that there is no counter to destroyer gangs ganking freighters.


False. There are counters, but you seem to think requiring effort to avoid a gank is somehow unfair.

How many ships do you think it should take to kill a freighter? Why shouldn't 40 people be able to kill 1 person? Is there any other MMO where 40 people couldn't kill one person? Unless you're talking about a bunch of lvl 1s attacking a level 50 or w/e, I can't think of any.



Veers has stated that NO FREIGHTER in HI sec should be able to be ganked by anything less than a Battleship. Not even 700 Destroyers
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#22 - 2014-10-06 17:29:14 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
nah, when do RvB ever go criminal...was tempted to Whoure on dem CONCORD killmails but had better things to do.


Actually, at this time RvB was going criminal, or at least suspect as we were engaged in a T3 low sec roam.

LoL, fair enough.

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Johann Rascali
The Milkmen
Sedition.
#23 - 2014-10-06 17:52:55 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
No, it's only bot aspirancy when the "carebears" do it. When the ISBoxer guy is part of the Code fleet then it's elite PvP, of course.
AFK mining with 20 ships is 20 times the AFK mining. Content creation with 20 ships is 20 times the content creation.

Subtle difference, if you don't or can't think about it.

So what you're saying is, 20 mining ships are creating the minerals required to create game content? I wholeheartly agree.

Blanking signatures doesn't seem to work, so this is here.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#24 - 2014-10-06 18:19:28 UTC
Johann Rascali wrote:
The ships and modules are the game's content
Get a load of this guy.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#25 - 2014-10-06 18:51:48 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Just 40 ships (apparently some of them controlled with ISBoxer) demonstrating that there is no counter to destroyer gangs ganking freighters.


Certainly not if you're afk, anyway. If you're actually at the keyboard and flying correctly it's nearly impossible to die.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2014-10-06 19:27:50 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Just 40 ships (apparently some of them controlled with ISBoxer) demonstrating that there is no counter to destroyer gangs ganking freighters.


There is no counter to 39 interceptors and 1 dictor killing a solo supercarrier, either. Unless you don't get caught in the first place, by being smart and using a scout, using a web alt, having a suicide falcon on standby, and not carrying 10x your hull value in cargo.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#27 - 2014-10-06 19:29:01 UTC
This thread has been moved to Crime & Punishment.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#28 - 2014-10-06 19:31:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
nvm

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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#29 - 2014-10-06 19:34:06 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Well, there were reasons, circumstances, influences.....


But above all I clicked on the wrong button...Blink
Stubborn thread moved on the second try.

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Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#30 - 2014-10-06 19:37:24 UTC
ISD Ezwal wrote:
Well, there were reasons, circumstances, influences.....


But above all I clicked on the wrong button...Blink
Stubborn thread moved on the second try.

Proof we are not all prefect..

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Steppa Musana
Doomheim
#31 - 2014-10-06 20:01:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Steppa Musana
Crumplecorn wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
No, it's only bot aspirancy when the "carebears" do it. When the ISBoxer guy is part of the Code fleet then it's elite PvP, of course.
AFK mining with 20 ships is 20 times the AFK mining. Content creation with 20 ships is 20 times the content creation.

Subtle difference, if you don't or can't think about it.

Wrong. Multibox mining creates lots of content, AFK or not.

The local miners typically get annoyed and try out tactics to get rid of the mining fleet. Bumping, wardecs, mercs, and ganking.
It also creates content for career gankers, giving them a juicy freighter or multiple smaller targets to go after.
The multiboxer then has a chance to respond himself, by using his legion of accounts to create gank alts and push out the aggressors that are giving him trouble or by hiring his own mercs.

Of course recognizing this would require actually thinking before posting. Blink

Hey guys.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#32 - 2014-10-06 20:54:04 UTC
Steppa Musana wrote:
Wrong. Multibox mining creates lots of content, AFK or not.
Wrong. Anything done multibox could by definition involve more people than it does, thus removing content from the game.

Of course, I know you already realise this, since the entire purpose of your post was obviously just to (try to) turn part of mine back on me. Stay butthurt.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#33 - 2014-10-06 21:15:25 UTC
they are at it again tonight, just blew through

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Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#34 - 2014-10-06 22:23:01 UTC
Saeger1737 wrote:
ISD Ezwal wrote:
Well, there were reasons, circumstances, influences.....


But above all I clicked on the wrong button...Blink
Stubborn thread moved on the second try.

Proof we are not all prefect..


. . . nor sober all day. :)

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#35 - 2014-10-07 01:45:40 UTC
Steppa Musana wrote:
Crumplecorn wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
No, it's only bot aspirancy when the "carebears" do it. When the ISBoxer guy is part of the Code fleet then it's elite PvP, of course.
AFK mining with 20 ships is 20 times the AFK mining. Content creation with 20 ships is 20 times the content creation.

Subtle difference, if you don't or can't think about it.

Wrong. Multibox mining creates lots of content, AFK or not.

The local miners typically get annoyed and try out tactics to get rid of the mining fleet. Bumping, wardecs, mercs, and ganking.
It also creates content for career gankers, giving them a juicy freighter or multiple smaller targets to go after.
The multiboxer then has a chance to respond himself, by using his legion of accounts to create gank alts and push out the aggressors that are giving him trouble or by hiring his own mercs.

Of course recognizing this would require actually thinking before posting. Blink


Cute :) But wrong. People should control the efforts of a single character, anything else is patently unfair and bad for the game.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#36 - 2014-10-07 02:13:07 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Just 40 ships (apparently some of them controlled with ISBoxer) demonstrating that there is no counter to destroyer gangs ganking freighters.


It's almost as if you have some pathological compulsion to spout nonsense. Pretty much everyone in the fleet was on TS and there were 40+ people present. How does that equate to ISBoxer involvement? Nerf facts!

As for who is behind it, it's the spearheaded by the New Order, though our friends from all over New Eden are welcome. Loyalanon has been doing an outstanding job of herding cats as the FC.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#37 - 2014-10-07 02:15:07 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Just 40 ships (apparently some of them controlled with ISBoxer) demonstrating that there is no counter to destroyer gangs ganking freighters.


It's almost as if you have some pathological compulsion to spout nonsense. Pretty much everyone in the fleet was on TS and there were 40+ people present. How does that equate to ISBoxer involvement? Nerf facts!

As for who is behind it, it's the spearheaded by the New Order, though our friends from all over New Eden are welcome. Loyalanon has been doing an outstanding job of herding cats as the FC.


Good deflection attempt. The Raging Ducks or whatever guy from Goons is an obvious ISBoxer controlling up to 20 accounts. But why don't you tell us since you were on coms....how many catas was he boxing?
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#38 - 2014-10-07 03:50:39 UTC
malcovas Henderson wrote:
Veers has stated that NO FREIGHTER in HI sec should be able to be ganked by anything less than a Battleship. Not even 700 Destroyers


I thought he was the one who said all non-consensual interaction violates the EULA? To be honest with people like Veers, AnsLOL, Doomsdale and Xenuria posting on the same forum they tend to merge into one big blob of lunacy and nonsense.

Veers Belvar wrote:
The Raging Ducks or whatever guy from Goons is an obvious ISBoxer controlling up to 20 accounts. But why don't you tell us since you were on coms....how many catas was he boxing?


If you can't even give me the right name how can I answer the question?

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#39 - 2014-10-07 04:00:52 UTC
admiral root wrote:
malcovas Henderson wrote:
Veers has stated that NO FREIGHTER in HI sec should be able to be ganked by anything less than a Battleship. Not even 700 Destroyers


I thought he was the one who said all non-consensual interaction violates the EULA? To be honest with people like Veers, AnsLOL, Doomsdale and Xenuria posting on the same forum they tend to merge into one big blob of lunacy and nonsense.

Veers Belvar wrote:
The Raging Ducks or whatever guy from Goons is an obvious ISBoxer controlling up to 20 accounts. But why don't you tell us since you were on coms....how many catas was he boxing?


If you can't even give me the right name how can I answer the question?


Not sure where you get this nonsese. I've never said that battleships should be required to gank freighters. What I do support is a WoT style penetration system where small guns cannot destroy battleships. I have never claimed that non-consensual interaction violates the EULA.

I can't like zkill here, but you can easily find the Goon boxer who has been working with Code.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#40 - 2014-10-07 04:22:24 UTC
My bad - it was your evil twin, Dryson, who made the claim about non-consensual interaction. As I said, you people all look alike to me.

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