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somedudeinaship
Star Whorz
#41 - 2014-10-06 13:04:54 UTC  |  Edited by: somedudeinaship
My advice is to specialize on a character as to what you are trying to do. Mining in and of itself actually takes quite a bit of skilling into and requires orca or rorqual boosts with a party boost to really be worth doing in my opinion (not to mention having good/great reprocessing skills to get even more out of your ore). Mining ice or ore are both fairly boring activities despite the pirates that come out to ease the boredom at times and make sure you're awake. You might actually need to start working on training up 3 barge or exhumer pilots and an orca pilot with skills that boost your mining yield in order to make mining interesting. EDIT: And what I mean by this is literally having 4 separate accounts for each ship I mentioned prior.

If you want action then perhaps specialize into something else like mission running. I'd work on specializing into battleships with at least all tier 2 support and weapons. However, I am no expert on that matter, but the game seems to be better when you pick a roll and specialize into something.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#42 - 2014-10-06 14:50:31 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
welcome to eve.

*Snip* Removed reply to a deleted post. ISD Ezwal.

back to the op,
as others have mentioned , you do not need to mine.
i did when i started and the pay is **** poor, as is the content (which is essentially someone asploding your ship the second you go make yourself a cup of tea) is just as bad,
you mentioned johny pew so i would say try exploration ,
ontop of being comparatively good pay, scanning skills are invaluable in pvp so you would actually be learning useful skills.

someone mentioned ninja salvaging and ill echo that recommendation as it requires you to use an expanded probe launcher to scan down other players in space and steal their stuffPirate.

you should read this and this.
if you want to get some easy(ish) kills look into this.
all links are from my ceo (and benevolent overlord) 's blog which i would recommend for you if you are looking into highsec pvp (of which there is plenty to be hadBlink).

feel free to contact me in game if you need a hand, there are plenty of rescources around for newbros, you just may not know how to find them.

also,
for troll free advice you should post questions here in the newbie section of the forums, there's no drama in there and you can for the most part trust the advice given.

o7

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Hakim Al-Jabbar
Doomheim
#43 - 2014-10-06 14:57:14 UTC
I am Hakim Al-Jabbar.

Mining is loser. Destroy is for victor. You must destroy.
Lister Dax
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2014-10-07 23:53:27 UTC
Phoenix Jones wrote:
I should reiterate, don't invest in plex. There is no need to plow in 10's to 100's of dollars just to get isk, especially at the beginning.


Who said multiple PLEX? If they can afford it, why waste time earning ISK as a newbie when you can use that time getting experience? If they buy just a single PLEX that will set them up with ships for quite a while, then when they have decent skills and experience in LS/NS/WH ISK will be easy to make.


Phoenix Jones wrote:
Don't go buying expensive toy's thinking you'll win. You won't.


Again, where did I say expensive toys?

OP, T1 frigs/dessies/cruisers will be all you'll need for a while, more so if you join somewhere with a decent SRP. I never did but I wish i'd have bought a PLEX and saved myself a lot of time and periods of getting fed up with playing just to make ISK to PVP with. Once you've got yourself to where you want to be and have a decent corp, you will have plenty of time to earn ISK easily.
James Nikolas Tesla
Tesla Holdings
#45 - 2014-10-08 00:16:53 UTC
To the OP, I will ask you to think about what you want to do. Every occupation has a fairly equal hazard level. If you are interested in doing something other than industry, don't skill into anything over a mining barge if you want to supplement your income that way. If, like me, you want to do industry, start off with getting into an exhumer and get your mining skills to at least Lv. 4 and then start expanding your skills into PI, manufacturing, research and invention, etc. It also pays to have a decent hauling ship. I also do get bored sometimes so I do have an exploration and a missioning ship (convert your LP's into other items that you can sell as well :D)

Anyway, don't fall into that belief that mining is a dumb, boring occupation. I suggest you do your research and find out what you want to do.

CODE is just a bunch of pirates; smart, organized pirates. It doesn't help to rage at them because that is exactly what they want. Dust yourself off and get back on your feet, you don't even have to talk to them.
Agatir Solenth
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2014-10-08 00:18:04 UTC
Welcome to EvE!

Now go join a corporation that is doing something you are interested in.

If you find out you don't get along with them, leave the corp and look for another.

The quicker you find people in this game, that you want to fly with... the quicker you'll realize this game is as good as you think.

One last tip... If you mission run, then learn to salvage & use tractor beams. You'll get a lot more ISK from the salvage than the mission payouts.

All the tips telling you to work your way up thru frigs > destroyers > cruisers > BC > BS are giving you good advice. Every ship builds the skills that will be the foundation for the next ship. I learned the hard way... I got into BS as fast as I could, then spent a ton of time working up my weapons skills so I could get to T2 guns.


Dare to Be Bold...
Nevil Oscillator
#47 - 2014-10-08 01:09:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Nevil Oscillator
James Nikolas Tesla wrote:
To the OP, I will ask you to think about what you want to do. Every occupation has a fairly equal hazard level. If you are interested in doing something other than industry, don't skill into anything over a mining barge if you want to supplement your income that way.


This is my point about old timers, they forget that you need

Astrogeology 3
Mining 4
Industry 5
Science 4

To even get in a barge, that is a fair old amount of non fighting skills and
once you are in one, how much more exciting than a Venture is it ?


Answer: Not very, Venture is a lot faster, has built in defence against warp scramblers, you can run straight through a gate camp of 20 ships and stick two fingers up at them sometimes. Zip into the red to look at some more rare asteroids without having to have a mining permit from the local pirates. Yes you usually have to make a fast exit if anything comes and they sometimes get blown up but you can't even get away with that for a day in a barge.. 30 mil to replace a barge, 200k to replace a venture. Plus there are random spawn rare asteroid belts that you can see on your scanner, they don't last long but a venture is usually first to get there.
Miko Valentine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2014-10-08 02:49:08 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
the masterplan is playing the lore some Roleplay thingy , trying to do all Gallente cosmos missions and than maybe the serpentis epic arc if my standings allow it or i find a way to repair them and the Gallente epic arc ... and i want to go into the DED combat site scanning buisness and of course doing the anoms on my way to while traveling around to scan for DED's.
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Nevil Oscillator
#49 - 2014-10-08 03:43:45 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Miko Valentine wrote:
the masterplan is playing the lore some Roleplay thingy , trying to do all Gallente cosmos missions and than maybe the serpentis epic arc if my standings allow it or i find a way to repair them and the Gallente epic arc ... and i want to go into the DED combat site scanning buisness and of course doing the anoms on my way to while traveling around to scan for DED's.
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You can get a probe scanning ship from the exploration career agent, you hack relic and data sites for loot by playing the mini hacking game. Relic sites become a bit obsolete for more experienced players as do the lower lever ded sites. Exploration is about finding stuff, If you find a good asteriod site, grab a venture and mine it till it's gone which isn't long once all the miner realise it is there. If you find a good combat site, grap a combat ship even though the exploration frigates can be quite tough, depending how you fit them. You can tell the level of the complex by the name, for example Serpentis lookout and Angel Lookout are the same level. Security missions can be a good way to get used to using a combat ship. Agents will only give you higher level missions if you have enough standing so you can find yourself often mission running for the same corporation. Those Ded Combat Sites can get quite competitive as you progress to the more difficult complexes, the experienced exploration players know what they are after and they hack/scan/loot pretty fast

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#50 - 2014-10-08 12:36:01 UTC
you should be fine.

something worth remembering though :

Attitude and some basic knowledge will get you much much further in eve than isk or skill points.

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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#51 - 2014-10-08 14:10:17 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.
Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!

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Serene Repose
#52 - 2014-10-08 15:35:27 UTC
This isn't a game. It's a career. Enjoy all the steps you'll take to get to where you won't stay long,
since you're headed to something else!

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#53 - 2014-10-08 20:16:07 UTC
I have removed a rule breaking post.

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Nevil Oscillator
#54 - 2014-10-08 20:30:56 UTC
I'm fairly sure there was a post here about how occupations sometimes become a rut to be stuck in.
Oh well.
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